But this thread is about a software company. If you read back, he wants
to sell of a software product. Being a one man show part time or full
time doesn't really work with a software company.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
V: 415-577-8070
F: 415-341-8906
P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 4:59 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Getting a business off the ground
> 
> Oh it was definately the case during the boom, but it does still make
> sense
> to do it in your part time.  I guess a lot depends on what you're
doing.
> 
> You don't start eBay in your spare time...it takes national
advertising
> compaigns etc.
> 
> You can start a development/consulting company part time...it may take
> longer...and will have less risk IMHO
> 
> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> t. 250.920.8830
> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 4:48 PM
> Subject: RE: Getting a business off the ground
> 
> 
> > Again, I think that was true during the boom, but certainly not now.
Not
> > only are shmucks not being funding, but neither are many good
business
> > ideas.
> >
> > Matt Liotta
> > President & CEO
> > Montara Software, Inc.
> > http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> > V: 415-577-8070
> > F: 415-341-8906
> > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 2:43 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: Getting a business off the ground
> > >
> > > Yup I'd have to agree with Paul here.  Any shmuck (not saying Matt
is)
> > can
> > > convince an investor to cough up some dough.  They can then burn
> > through
> > > it...fail..and have nothing but debt to show for it.
> > >
> > > The "work and build on the side" approach makes better business
sense
> > > IMHO.
> > >
> > > -You do not have the huge potential downside of losing all your
money
> > and
> > > someone elses
> > > -You are the boss
> > > -You can work out some kinks that could be expensive if you were
in
> > full
> > > swing
> > > blah blah blah
> > >
> > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> > > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> > > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> > > t. 250.920.8830
> > > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > > Macromedia Associate Partner
> > > www.macromedia.com
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> > > Founder & Director
> > > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Paul Giesenhagen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 2:13 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Getting a business off the ground
> > >
> > >
> > > > I think you are missing his point, it isn't really a matter of
web
> > > shops,
> > > > but more of ambition and wisdom combined .. If you want to get
into
> > the
> > > > bathroom fixtures business and work at McDonalds to support
yourself
> > > while
> > > > building your clientile and your bathroom fixture business, then
> > that is
> > > > what you have to do.  I would venture to say that there are a
GREAT
> > many
> > > > people, maybe even more than the 'norm' that do it this way.
> > > >
> > > > I deal with folks everyday that are currently working somewhere,
> > while
> > > > building something else that they eventually want to do full
time.
> > > >
> > > > Don't just limit your thinking to the techno world, hard work,
> > > dedication,
> > > > wisdom and alittle good common sense can help you obtain your
dreams
> > no
> > > > matter what field.
> > > >
> > > > Paul Giesenhagen
> > > > QuillDesign
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 4:00 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: Getting a business off the ground
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > That's a wonderful story, but that just isn't the norm. Sure
tons
> > of
> > > web
> > > > > shops got started that way, but it all happened during a boom.
The
> > > boom
> > > > > is over.
> > > > >
> > > > > Matt Liotta
> > > > > President & CEO
> > > > > Montara Software, Inc.
> > > > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> > > > > V: 415-577-8070
> > > > > F: 415-341-8906
> > > > > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:54 PM
> > > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Getting a business off the ground
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Matt,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is a myth and belies ambition. I started my company by
> > working
> > > > > part
> > > > > > time at a regular company doing development, and doing
contract
> > work
> > > > > on
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > side for a year and a 1/2, building up clientele - by the
time I
> > > quite
> > > > > my
> > > > > > regular job I had fully replaced it's income and then some.
I
> > also
> > > had
> > > > > a
> > > > > > solid base to launch my company full time, as well as an
> > excellent
> > > > > pool of
> > > > > > capital - and it's gone gangbusters ever since. It just
depends
> > on
> > > who
> > > > > you
> > > > > > are and where you are at in life. There's living by faith -
and
> > then
> > > > > > there's
> > > > > > wisdom.  You need a balance of both to be well-rounded.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -mk
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 2:28 PM
> > > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Getting a business off the ground
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The big thing is that you have to jump all the way in. You
can't
> > > start
> > > > > a
> > > > > > company moonlighting while you work somewhere else. If you
can't
> > bet
> > > > > > your livelihood on your business then you can't really
expect
> > anyone
> > > > > > else to either.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Matt Liotta
> > > > > > President & CEO
> > > > > > Montara Software, Inc.
> > > > > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> > > > > > V: 415-577-8070
> > > > > > F: 415-341-8906
> > > > > > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:53 AM
> > > > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > > > Subject: OT: Getting a business off the ground
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have started my own company a while ago and am hitting a
> > brick
> > > > > wall
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > to get it off the ground. It's hard to do absolutely
> > everything
> > > > > > myself, so
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > throw this out to some of you that have your own company.
What
> > did
> > > > > you
> > > > > > do?
> > > > > > > Did you start with money? Hire people? Do everything
yourself?
> > > Have
> > > > > a
> > > > > > kick
> > > > > > > ass product that got you off the ground? Cold called
people?
> > Sent
> > > > > out
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > mailing? What did you do? I have an application I made
that is
> > > > > pretty
> > > > > > > polished and am just looking for ideas on how to get this
> > thing
> > > out
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > door
> > > > > > > to people as either a service or as a stand alone app
people
> > can
> > > > > buy.
> > > > > > WHAT
> > > > > > > DO I DO!!!!!! Anyways, sorry for the OT, flame away, but I
> > figure
> > > > > > there
> > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > to be a couple other people that could benefit from this
> > > discussion,
> > > > > > let
> > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > know if this needs to move over to cf-community so I can
sign
> > up
> > > for
> > > > > > it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Robert Everland III
> > > > > > > Web Developer Extraordinaire
> > > > > > > Dixon Ticonderoga Company
> > > > > > > http://www.dixonusa.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
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