If you are serious then do not make it a part time effort; everyone on this list is willing to moonlight for the right price.
If he wants to sell a software app or a web app then it's marketing marketing marketing. Hire some used car salesman, hot women, and hyper aggressive a**holes. And go to the conferences. This is assuming your app is a run-of-the-mill app that is available on sourceforge or freshmeat. Now if your app is really different (which I highly doubt) then you can get investors (maybe). But still you have to SELL. Just look at this thread people have said your reservation app "looks" this or is "slick"; no one has cared if its written well. On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Matt Liotta wrote: > But this thread is about a software company. If you read back, he wants > to sell of a software product. Being a one man show part time or full > time doesn't really work with a software company. > > Matt Liotta > President & CEO > Montara Software, Inc. > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > V: 415-577-8070 > F: 415-341-8906 > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 4:59 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: Getting a business off the ground > > > > Oh it was definately the case during the boom, but it does still make > > sense > > to do it in your part time. I guess a lot depends on what you're > doing. > > > > You don't start eBay in your spare time...it takes national > advertising > > compaigns etc. > > > > You can start a development/consulting company part time...it may take > > longer...and will have less risk IMHO > > > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > > t. 250.920.8830 > > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > Macromedia Associate Partner > > www.macromedia.com > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group > > Founder & Director > > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 4:48 PM > > Subject: RE: Getting a business off the ground > > > > > > > Again, I think that was true during the boom, but certainly not now. > Not > > > only are shmucks not being funding, but neither are many good > business > > > ideas. > > > > > > Matt Liotta > > > President & CEO > > > Montara Software, Inc. > > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > > > V: 415-577-8070 > > > F: 415-341-8906 > > > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 2:43 PM > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > Subject: Re: Getting a business off the ground > > > > > > > > Yup I'd have to agree with Paul here. Any shmuck (not saying Matt > is) > > > can > > > > convince an investor to cough up some dough. They can then burn > > > through > > > > it...fail..and have nothing but debt to show for it. > > > > > > > > The "work and build on the side" approach makes better business > sense > > > > IMHO. > > > > > > > > -You do not have the huge potential downside of losing all your > money > > > and > > > > someone elses > > > > -You are the boss > > > > -You can work out some kinks that could be expensive if you were > in > > > full > > > > swing > > > > blah blah blah > > > > > > > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > > > > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > > > > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > > > > t. 250.920.8830 > > > > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Macromedia Associate Partner > > > > www.macromedia.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group > > > > Founder & Director > > > > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Paul Giesenhagen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 2:13 PM > > > > Subject: Re: Getting a business off the ground > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you are missing his point, it isn't really a matter of > web > > > > shops, > > > > > but more of ambition and wisdom combined .. If you want to get > into > > > the > > > > > bathroom fixtures business and work at McDonalds to support > yourself > > > > while > > > > > building your clientile and your bathroom fixture business, then > > > that is > > > > > what you have to do. I would venture to say that there are a > GREAT > > > many > > > > > people, maybe even more than the 'norm' that do it this way. > > > > > > > > > > I deal with folks everyday that are currently working somewhere, > > > while > > > > > building something else that they eventually want to do full > time. > > > > > > > > > > Don't just limit your thinking to the techno world, hard work, > > > > dedication, > > > > > wisdom and alittle good common sense can help you obtain your > dreams > > > no > > > > > matter what field. > > > > > > > > > > Paul Giesenhagen > > > > > QuillDesign > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 4:00 PM > > > > > Subject: RE: Getting a business off the ground > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's a wonderful story, but that just isn't the norm. Sure > tons > > > of > > > > web > > > > > > shops got started that way, but it all happened during a boom. > The > > > > boom > > > > > > is over. > > > > > > > > > > > > Matt Liotta > > > > > > President & CEO > > > > > > Montara Software, Inc. > > > > > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > > > > > > V: 415-577-8070 > > > > > > F: 415-341-8906 > > > > > > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:54 PM > > > > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Getting a business off the ground > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Matt, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a myth and belies ambition. I started my company by > > > working > > > > > > part > > > > > > > time at a regular company doing development, and doing > contract > > > work > > > > > > on > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > side for a year and a 1/2, building up clientele - by the > time I > > > > quite > > > > > > my > > > > > > > regular job I had fully replaced it's income and then some. > I > > > also > > > > had > > > > > > a > > > > > > > solid base to launch my company full time, as well as an > > > excellent > > > > > > pool of > > > > > > > capital - and it's gone gangbusters ever since. It just > depends > > > on > > > > who > > > > > > you > > > > > > > are and where you are at in life. There's living by faith - > and > > > then > > > > > > > there's > > > > > > > wisdom. You need a balance of both to be well-rounded. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -mk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 2:28 PM > > > > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Getting a business off the ground > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The big thing is that you have to jump all the way in. You > can't > > > > start > > > > > > a > > > > > > > company moonlighting while you work somewhere else. If you > can't > > > bet > > > > > > > your livelihood on your business then you can't really > expect > > > anyone > > > > > > > else to either. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Matt Liotta > > > > > > > President & CEO > > > > > > > Montara Software, Inc. > > > > > > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > > > > > > > V: 415-577-8070 > > > > > > > F: 415-341-8906 > > > > > > > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:53 AM > > > > > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > > > > > Subject: OT: Getting a business off the ground > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have started my own company a while ago and am hitting a > > > brick > > > > > > wall > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > to get it off the ground. It's hard to do absolutely > > > everything > > > > > > > myself, so > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > throw this out to some of you that have your own company. > What > > > did > > > > > > you > > > > > > > do? > > > > > > > > Did you start with money? Hire people? Do everything > yourself? > > > > Have > > > > > > a > > > > > > > kick > > > > > > > > ass product that got you off the ground? Cold called > people? > > > Sent > > > > > > out > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > mailing? What did you do? I have an application I made > that is > > > > > > pretty > > > > > > > > polished and am just looking for ideas on how to get this > > > thing > > > > out > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > door > > > > > > > > to people as either a service or as a stand alone app > people > > > can > > > > > > buy. > > > > > > > WHAT > > > > > > > > DO I DO!!!!!! Anyways, sorry for the OT, flame away, but I > > > figure > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > to be a couple other people that could benefit from this > > > > discussion, > > > > > > > let > > > > > > > > me > > > > > > > > know if this needs to move over to cf-community so I can > sign > > > up > > > > for > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert Everland III > > > > > > > > Web Developer Extraordinaire > > > > > > > > Dixon Ticonderoga Company > > > > > > > > http://www.dixonusa.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
