Wrong again... there is a plethara of business out there... and always has been. the only "bust" is west coastys and their high rise dot com pure play dreams - now cast into the junk yard along with the thousands of ad banners <g>.
-----Original Message----- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 6:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Getting a business off the ground Again, I think that was true during the boom, but certainly not now. Not only are shmucks not being funding, but neither are many good business ideas. Matt Liotta President & CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ V: 415-577-8070 F: 415-341-8906 P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -----Original Message----- > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 2:43 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Getting a business off the ground > > Yup I'd have to agree with Paul here. Any shmuck (not saying Matt is) can > convince an investor to cough up some dough. They can then burn through > it...fail..and have nothing but debt to show for it. > > The "work and build on the side" approach makes better business sense > IMHO. > > -You do not have the huge potential downside of losing all your money and > someone elses > -You are the boss > -You can work out some kinks that could be expensive if you were in full > swing > blah blah blah > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > t. 250.920.8830 > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Macromedia Associate Partner > www.macromedia.com > --------------------------------------------------------- > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group > Founder & Director > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Giesenhagen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 2:13 PM > Subject: Re: Getting a business off the ground > > > > I think you are missing his point, it isn't really a matter of web > shops, > > but more of ambition and wisdom combined .. If you want to get into the > > bathroom fixtures business and work at McDonalds to support yourself > while > > building your clientile and your bathroom fixture business, then that is > > what you have to do. I would venture to say that there are a GREAT many > > people, maybe even more than the 'norm' that do it this way. > > > > I deal with folks everyday that are currently working somewhere, while > > building something else that they eventually want to do full time. > > > > Don't just limit your thinking to the techno world, hard work, > dedication, > > wisdom and alittle good common sense can help you obtain your dreams no > > matter what field. > > > > Paul Giesenhagen > > QuillDesign > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 4:00 PM > > Subject: RE: Getting a business off the ground > > > > > > > That's a wonderful story, but that just isn't the norm. Sure tons of > web > > > shops got started that way, but it all happened during a boom. The > boom > > > is over. > > > > > > Matt Liotta > > > President & CEO > > > Montara Software, Inc. > > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > > > V: 415-577-8070 > > > F: 415-341-8906 > > > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:54 PM > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > Subject: RE: Getting a business off the ground > > > > > > > > Matt, > > > > > > > > This is a myth and belies ambition. I started my company by working > > > part > > > > time at a regular company doing development, and doing contract work > > > on > > > > the > > > > side for a year and a 1/2, building up clientele - by the time I > quite > > > my > > > > regular job I had fully replaced it's income and then some. I also > had > > > a > > > > solid base to launch my company full time, as well as an excellent > > > pool of > > > > capital - and it's gone gangbusters ever since. It just depends on > who > > > you > > > > are and where you are at in life. There's living by faith - and then > > > > there's > > > > wisdom. You need a balance of both to be well-rounded. > > > > > > > > -mk > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 2:28 PM > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > Subject: RE: Getting a business off the ground > > > > > > > > > > > > The big thing is that you have to jump all the way in. You can't > start > > > a > > > > company moonlighting while you work somewhere else. If you can't bet > > > > your livelihood on your business then you can't really expect anyone > > > > else to either. > > > > > > > > Matt Liotta > > > > President & CEO > > > > Montara Software, Inc. > > > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > > > > V: 415-577-8070 > > > > F: 415-341-8906 > > > > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:53 AM > > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > > Subject: OT: Getting a business off the ground > > > > > > > > > > I have started my own company a while ago and am hitting a brick > > > wall > > > > on > > > > > how > > > > > to get it off the ground. It's hard to do absolutely everything > > > > myself, so > > > > > I > > > > > throw this out to some of you that have your own company. What did > > > you > > > > do? > > > > > Did you start with money? Hire people? Do everything yourself? > Have > > > a > > > > kick > > > > > ass product that got you off the ground? Cold called people? Sent > > > out > > > > a > > > > > mailing? What did you do? I have an application I made that is > > > pretty > > > > > polished and am just looking for ideas on how to get this thing > out > > > > the > > > > > door > > > > > to people as either a service or as a stand alone app people can > > > buy. > > > > WHAT > > > > > DO I DO!!!!!! Anyways, sorry for the OT, flame away, but I figure > > > > there > > > > > has > > > > > to be a couple other people that could benefit from this > discussion, > > > > let > > > > > me > > > > > know if this needs to move over to cf-community so I can sign up > for > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > Robert Everland III > > > > > Web Developer Extraordinaire > > > > > Dixon Ticonderoga Company > > > > > http://www.dixonusa.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
