It's the FAA's web development standard (I'm doing a contract for them), and is the standard for many other organizations with the need for rapid application development (although the government is far from rapid I've learned).
I will say again, though, that I *know* many developers get turned off by having to type the proprietary software acronym "CF" all the time. It's a dumb gripe, but I've heard it before. I think they'd be happy with: <%_output> Instead of: <cfoutput> Damn geeks. :) I think the biggest concern, though, is money. Microsoft pulled its classic trick and made ASP free. PHP is truly free, and has matured enough to rival ColdFusion. I haven't had to argue it too much, but what is CF's main reason for charging anyways? Their product is well worth it, but when everyone else goes free, you have to have great reasons for charging. I usually cite: Total ease of use, extreme development speed Inclusion of verity search functionality Superb documentation What do others say? --D -----Original Message----- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta@;r337.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP People talk shit about VB more than any other language. Most calling VB a toy because it is easy to create applications with. Ironically, VB is used in every Fortune 2000 company and has the largest developer base in the world mostly because of its ease of use. CF seems to suffer from the same thing. It is quite simply the easiest language to build web applications in and as such is considered a toy by some, while many Fortune 2000 companies use CF for internal web applications because of this. Matt Liotta President & CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 > -----Original Message----- > From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:info@;turnkey.to] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:07 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP > > > Sure they do. It all depends on who you talk to, Just like C++ vs VB vs > > Java > > > > At 01:22 PM 10/30/2002 -0500, you wrote: > >>You know, I am so sick and tired of having to defend CF, at work to > other > >>developers here....... You know I don't see php, or asp people having > do > >>defend using those languages..... WTF!! > >> > >>F%$# it I am changing career's and becoming a firefighter....... > > I've heard people talk about having to defend ASP ( for being cryptic and > not being dynamic enough -- my personal reasons for not liking it after > having worked with it almost exclusively for a year ) and PHP ( for its > background / history -- I have no clue what this means ). I probably can't > count the number of times I've heard people refer to VB with obvious > disdain > -- but it still gets a lot of use. And people complain about Java being > "buggy" or "flakey" with enough consistency that I can sometimes finish > their sentences. I've had to defend the use of JavaScript and dhtml even > in > environments where it was known that the company was standardized on IE > and > no-one should be using the application with anything else and there was no > plan to change. > > > S. Isaac Dealey > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > www.turnkey.to > 954-776-0046 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
