Michael hasn't asked for this one to be banned yet due to devcon getting in the way. Michael banned 3 other topics and asked them to be moved: 1. Christian CF programmers 2. Is MM listening to the CF community 3. Is BlueDragon an interpreter, compiler, whatever.
In the first case, I asked the thread to be moved to CF-Community. In the second, I asked for it to be moved to CF-Partners for those who did not want to deal with the CF-Community list. Some did continue the thread there. In the third case, I created an entirely new mailing list specifically for BlueDragon issues. This thread is one that should be moved off of CF-Talk to somewhere else, but I'll let you decide where. Here's the problem. Michael is not paid to do these lists. Michael has a life where he's trying to find work to be paid so he can dedicate time to these lists. Michael has shown his dedication to these lists and the community many times and that dedication should not be in question. When Michael bans a thread it it because the thread is NOT TECHNICAL IN NATURE AND DOES NOT BELONG ON CF-TALK. Those are the list rules. Technical talk about CF. Not Bitching about MM. Not asking for CF programmers of a specific belief, orientation or gender. If a topic is not tech, it does not belong. If its not banned fast enough, I guess that means that Michael has allowed it. A bit of faulty logic. It means that The thread has stopped before Michael has asked for it to stop, Michael has missed it or that Michael has asked for it to stop some other way (like personal emails). If you have a problem with me and how I run the lists, you have a rather good idea of my personal email. You can even call me at 718-951-3235 if you want to talk about it. Try not to make broad and false statements in public. Thank you. > You know, I had to laugh when I saw this topic because, unlike the topic > Michael banned (the debate about Macromedia, bugs, whether they are > listening to the community, etc.), this one has nothing to do with anything. > It's the same re-hash of CF defense against all the other languages, yet it > is allowed to propagate. > > And I thought I was actually contributing to the other topic -- darn! I had > a good response to that one. It all came down to the question of "If you > don't like the credit card policy of Macromedia, what is your solution for > people who need immediate help?" > > Of course, none of you ever saw that post (except Matt who I forwarded it > to), which was a little more in-depth than that question. > > The reason I felt that topic was so relevant was because the developers on > this list should be able to contribute to the discussion by trying to > formulate some type of answer based on a consensus that might've opened a > good dialogue with MM. But it was relegated to the cf-partners list, a list > which, as Matt pointed out, not a lot of people read. > > Once again, something that was on some sort of track to "resultville" gets > squashed, but detritus like this is okay. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rob Rohan [mailto:rob@;cardinalweb.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:35 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP > > > > > > oof, hit a sore spot eh? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta@;r337.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:19 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP > > > > > > People talk shit about VB more than any other language. Most calling VB > > a toy because it is easy to create applications with. Ironically, VB is > > used in every Fortune 2000 company and has the largest developer base in > > the world mostly because of its ease of use. > > > > CF seems to suffer from the same thing. It is quite simply the easiest > > language to build web applications in and as such is considered a toy by > > some, while many Fortune 2000 companies use CF for internal web > > applications because of this. > > > > Matt Liotta > > President & CEO > > Montara Software, Inc. > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > > 888-408-0900 x901 > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
