> In 1991, my IT department head, a C programmer by trade, > told me > (paraphrasing) "Visual Basic? Don't waste time learning > that - it will > never be accepted ... you'll never make a dime ..".
> Well, 11 years later there are many people making a lot of > dimes from > VB, writing very powerful, functional apps, and people > still call it a > toy.. > Matt is right - CF is being treated exactly the same way. > In my mind, CF currently is immature, as VB was back in > 1991. In time, > CF will be that powerful, stable, reasonably bug free > platform that CF > 5.0 *almost was*. Ack.. CFMX should have been delayed a > year or > three... Just my opinion. I disagree -- I think delaying the move to MX would have only delayed good things for the CF community... But then I'm not going to emphatically defend that position. Just my 2 dimes. :) Isaac Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer www.turnkey.to 954-776-0046 > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta@;r337.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:39 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP > Not really. I get great enjoyment out of watching people > make fools of > themselves by attacking programming languages without > merit. > Matt Liotta > President & CEO > Montara Software, Inc. > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > 888-408-0900 x901 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rob Rohan [mailto:rob@;cardinalweb.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:35 PM >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: RE: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP >> >> oof, hit a sore spot eh? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta@;r337.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:19 PM >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: RE: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP >> >> >> People talk shit about VB more than any other language. >> Most calling > VB >> a toy because it is easy to create applications with. >> Ironically, VB > is >> used in every Fortune 2000 company and has the largest >> developer base > in >> the world mostly because of its ease of use. >> >> CF seems to suffer from the same thing. It is quite >> simply the easiest >> language to build web applications in and as such is >> considered a toy > by >> some, while many Fortune 2000 companies use CF for >> internal web >> applications because of this. >> >> Matt Liotta >> President & CEO >> Montara Software, Inc. >> http://www.montarasoftware.com/ >> 888-408-0900 x901 >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:info@;turnkey.to] >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:07 PM >> > To: CF-Talk >> > Subject: Re: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP >> > >> > > Sure they do. It all depends on who you talk to, Just >> > > like C++ vs > VB >> vs >> > > Java >> > > >> > > At 01:22 PM 10/30/2002 -0500, you wrote: >> > >>You know, I am so sick and tired of having to defend >> > >>CF, at work > to >> > other >> > >>developers here....... You know I don't see php, or >> > >>asp people >> having >> > do >> > >>defend using those languages..... WTF!! >> > >> >> > >>F%$# it I am changing career's and becoming a >> > >>firefighter....... >> > >> > I've heard people talk about having to defend ASP ( for >> > being > cryptic >> and >> > not being dynamic enough -- my personal reasons for not >> > liking it >> after >> > having worked with it almost exclusively for a year ) >> > and PHP ( for >> its >> > background / history -- I have no clue what this means >> > ). I probably >> can't >> > count the number of times I've heard people refer to VB >> > with obvious >> > disdain >> > -- but it still gets a lot of use. And people complain >> > about Java >> being >> > "buggy" or "flakey" with enough consistency that I can >> > sometimes >> finish >> > their sentences. I've had to defend the use of >> > JavaScript and dhtml >> even >> > in >> > environments where it was known that the company was >> > standardized on >> IE >> > and >> > no-one should be using the application with anything >> > else and there >> was no >> > plan to change. >> > >> > >> > S. Isaac Dealey >> > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer >> > >> > www.turnkey.to >> > 954-776-0046 >> > >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~| > Archives: > http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 > Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sideb > ar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk > FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq > Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these > lists and provide more resources for the community. > http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
