Yep, that's the rub. We're looking at big content repositories as well and it does seem like the longer we continue to make stuff in other formats, the bigger the job will be to convert it to something like XML.
-Kevin > -----Original Message----- > From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 9:50 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: MM Rich Text Editor - WAS: RE: Macromedia Contribute > > > Problem is pulling in either word or other text documents or older html > documents from the database. There's no way a text-editor would > know how to > properly transform that format into our own custom XML. I'm > afraid that will > still have to be a manual process. > > XHTML seems like a better step, as from what I believe it's just an 'XML > standard that happens to have the syntax of html'. > > Adam. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 7:56 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: MM Rich Text Editor - WAS: RE: Macromedia Contribute > > > > > > Wouldn't that be XML? > > > > -Kevin > > > > .. > > > So thanks for improving the product, we did choose yours > > for a reason. I'd > > > just like to see a solid format for storing content > > long-term and still > > > being able to change its presentation 10 years down the road if > > > needed. ... > > > > > > Adam. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Pete Freitag [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 3:21 PM > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > Subject: RE: MM Rich Text Editor - WAS: RE: Macromedia Contribute > > > > > > > > > > > > Adam, in ActivEdit 3.0 we added a bunch of regular > > > > expressions, and parsers > > > > to clean up Word content pasted into the control, it's not > > > > perfect but it > > > > does get rid of lots of extraneous markup when you paste from > > > > Word. Are you > > > > using Version 3? > > > > > > > > As for the HTML that ActivEdit generates (actually it's the > > > > ActiveX control > > > > that generates the HTML in most cases), it is valid HTML 3.2. > > > > Many people > > > > prefer XHTML output these days, and we do have a CFX tag that > > > > will convert > > > > HTML 3.2 or 4 into XHTML or vise versa, if your interested > > > > let me know. The > > > > next version of ActivEdit will address these issues further. > > > > > > > > You can also set a stylesheet for use within activedit via > > > > the stylesheet > > > > attribute. > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > > > Pete Freitag > > > > CTO, CFDEV.COM > > > > http://www.cfdev.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 1:33 PM > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > Subject: RE: MM Rich Text Editor - WAS: RE: Macromedia Contribute > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd like to see an editor that only defines classes in a div > > > > or a span, and > > > > which provides a default style sheet. The extent of the html > > > > would be very > > > > simple <a>, <br />, <hr /> and XHTML compliant. One problem I > > > > see with this > > > > is pulling in word documents, or old HTML with tables and > > > > invalid markup. > > > > > > > > We're currently using ActiveEdit, and even though it's > > > > working well, I have > > > > this really uneasy feeling about the HTML it's producing. It > > > > just completely > > > > goes against the concept of separating content from style, > > > > but I just can't > > > > think of a suitable alternative to doing it this way until we can: > > > > a. Go through all of our old content stripping out all of the > > > > markup, and > > > > then restylizing it using the new editor's classes. > > > > b. Make the decision to never paste word documents, or old > > > > html into the > > > > editor without first "cleansing" it in notepad, and then > > > > restylizing it > > > > within the editor. > > > > > > > > That would be a complete administrative nightmare. > > > > > > > > Is anyone else feeling the same concerns, and has anyone > > > > taken measures to > > > > address this? I'd be interested in hearing what you did. > > > > > > > > Adam. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Joshua Miller > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:00 AM > > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > > Subject: MM Rich Text Editor - WAS: RE: Macromedia Contribute > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would think that given those abilities that > > integrating it into an > > > > > intranet security context would provide functionality for > > > > permissions. > > > > > Personally, I'd rather have something that lets me > > control file/edit > > > > > permissions and simply sticks to editing capabilities. I want a > > > > > super-form-control more than a content manager - I'll handle > > > > > the content > > > > > management as it applies to my specific application. > > > > > > > > > > Is there a version of the DRK2 Rich Text Editor online > > > > anywhere that I > > > > > could try before I buy? I'd like to be able to make an > > > > > informed decision > > > > > before jumping into something. > > > > > > > > > > Although from the looks of ActivEdit it's going to be > > hard to beat. > > > > > > > > > > Joshua Miller > > > > > Head Programmer / IT Manager > > > > > Garrison Enterprises Inc. > > > > > www.garrisonenterprises.net > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > (704) 569-9044 ext. 254 > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************** > > > > > ********** > > > > > ************* > > > > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the > > > > > individual sender, > > > > > except where the sender states them to be the views of > > > > > Garrison Enterprises Inc. > > > > > > > > > > This e-mail is intended only for the individual or entity to > > > > > which it is > > > > > addressed and contains information that is private and > > > > > confidential. 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If you > > > > > have received this e-mail in error please delete it > > immediately and > > > > > advise us by return e-mail to > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > ************************************************************** > > > > > ********** > > > > > ************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:32 AM > > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > > Subject: RE: Macromedia Contribute > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are built-in controls to limit users to a particular > > > > directory; > > > > > disallow editing of scripts/includes/forms/ or even > > > > anything but text; > > > > > allow or disallow the ability to assign css styles, and > > disable the > > > > > <font> tag and even inline css styles. You can limit users to > > > > > only edit > > > > > pages, create pages based on templates, , create pages by > > > > copying any > > > > > existing page, or make anything from scratch. And you can > > > > > define a file > > > > > size limit to how large of a graphic can be used on a page > > > > (in KB, not > > > > > dimensions.) > > > > > > > > > > That's pretty much what you can control. You can create > > > > > groups of users > > > > > with different permissions. Other than that, it's not really > > > > > extensible > > > > > for permissions from what I can see. > > > > > > > > > > -Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Kay Smoljak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 8:30 AM > > > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > > > Subject: Re: Macromedia Contribute > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Samuel R. Neff wrote: > > > > > > > If that's what you want you can take a look at > > > > > > > MM's DRK2 which has a Rich Text Editor component > > for Flash. It > > > > > > can easily > > > > > > > be wrapped into a stand-alone widget for embedding > > in HTML and > > > > > > an also be > > > > > > > extended. > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have this, who would like to comment on how > > > > > extendable it > > > > > > is? For example. if I wanted to limit the html > > editing controls my > > > > > > users had (no fonts or colours, for example, or only > > stylesheet > > > > > > classes) could I do this? Or say I wanted to change the > > > > > colour of the > > > > > > component to match my app... > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Kay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Kay Smoljak > > > > > > ---------------------------- > > > > > > http://kay.smoljak.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
