Hey thanks Pete, you guys make a good product. We're now using version 3 with stylesheets and custom classes - huge improvement. We've taken out the style toolbars that would allow you to change size/color/font, and have replaced them with a set of standard classes.
The problem now though is pulling in all of the content that was created with 2.5. There is still a great deal of <font> and other static styles which don't really give our content a consistent feel (at least looking at the source it doesn't). Word documents are much better, but still heavily garbled with unsightly markup - even after filtering. I understand that this may be a limitation of the MS provided "word filter". So thanks for improving the product, we did choose yours for a reason. I'd just like to see a solid format for storing content long-term and still being able to change its presentation 10 years down the road if needed. The goal is to have our content people focusing on their substantive areas of expertise, and not the technical aspects of "why do I have to paste this into notepad and then redo all of the styles again?". That has been a huge process for them - converting a bunch of old dreamweaver code into ActiveEdit, and you can imagine the looks I got when I told them we were upgrading to version 3. All I could say was that it was for their own good :| Hopefully my original msg wasn't taken as being overly critical of your guys' product, was more of a general complaint towards the common markup woes that we still all have to deal with for some reason :) Adam. > -----Original Message----- > From: Pete Freitag [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 3:21 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: MM Rich Text Editor - WAS: RE: Macromedia Contribute > > > Adam, in ActivEdit 3.0 we added a bunch of regular > expressions, and parsers > to clean up Word content pasted into the control, it's not > perfect but it > does get rid of lots of extraneous markup when you paste from > Word. Are you > using Version 3? > > As for the HTML that ActivEdit generates (actually it's the > ActiveX control > that generates the HTML in most cases), it is valid HTML 3.2. > Many people > prefer XHTML output these days, and we do have a CFX tag that > will convert > HTML 3.2 or 4 into XHTML or vise versa, if your interested > let me know. The > next version of ActivEdit will address these issues further. > > You can also set a stylesheet for use within activedit via > the stylesheet > attribute. > > _____________________________________________ > Pete Freitag > CTO, CFDEV.COM > http://www.cfdev.com/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 1:33 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: MM Rich Text Editor - WAS: RE: Macromedia Contribute > > > I'd like to see an editor that only defines classes in a div > or a span, and > which provides a default style sheet. The extent of the html > would be very > simple <a>, <br />, <hr /> and XHTML compliant. One problem I > see with this > is pulling in word documents, or old HTML with tables and > invalid markup. > > We're currently using ActiveEdit, and even though it's > working well, I have > this really uneasy feeling about the HTML it's producing. It > just completely > goes against the concept of separating content from style, > but I just can't > think of a suitable alternative to doing it this way until we can: > a. Go through all of our old content stripping out all of the > markup, and > then restylizing it using the new editor's classes. > b. Make the decision to never paste word documents, or old > html into the > editor without first "cleansing" it in notepad, and then > restylizing it > within the editor. > > That would be a complete administrative nightmare. > > Is anyone else feeling the same concerns, and has anyone > taken measures to > address this? I'd be interested in hearing what you did. > > Adam. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joshua Miller > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:00 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: MM Rich Text Editor - WAS: RE: Macromedia Contribute > > > > > > I would think that given those abilities that integrating it into an > > intranet security context would provide functionality for > permissions. > > Personally, I'd rather have something that lets me control file/edit > > permissions and simply sticks to editing capabilities. I want a > > super-form-control more than a content manager - I'll handle > > the content > > management as it applies to my specific application. > > > > Is there a version of the DRK2 Rich Text Editor online > anywhere that I > > could try before I buy? I'd like to be able to make an > > informed decision > > before jumping into something. > > > > Although from the looks of ActivEdit it's going to be hard to beat. > > > > Joshua Miller > > Head Programmer / IT Manager > > Garrison Enterprises Inc. > > www.garrisonenterprises.net > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > (704) 569-9044 ext. 254 > > > > ************************************************************** > > ********** > > ************* > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the > > individual sender, > > except where the sender states them to be the views of > > Garrison Enterprises Inc. > > > > This e-mail is intended only for the individual or entity to > > which it is > > addressed and contains information that is private and > > confidential. If > > you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any > > dissemination, distribution or copying is strictly > prohibited. If you > > have received this e-mail in error please delete it immediately and > > advise us by return e-mail to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ************************************************************** > > ********** > > ************* > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:32 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Macromedia Contribute > > > > > > There are built-in controls to limit users to a particular > directory; > > disallow editing of scripts/includes/forms/ or even > anything but text; > > allow or disallow the ability to assign css styles, and disable the > > <font> tag and even inline css styles. You can limit users to > > only edit > > pages, create pages based on templates, , create pages by > copying any > > existing page, or make anything from scratch. And you can > > define a file > > size limit to how large of a graphic can be used on a page > (in KB, not > > dimensions.) > > > > That's pretty much what you can control. You can create > > groups of users > > with different permissions. Other than that, it's not really > > extensible > > for permissions from what I can see. > > > > -Kevin > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kay Smoljak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 8:30 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: Macromedia Contribute > > > > > > > > > Samuel R. Neff wrote: > > > > If that's what you want you can take a look at > > > > MM's DRK2 which has a Rich Text Editor component for Flash. It > > > can easily > > > > be wrapped into a stand-alone widget for embedding in HTML and > > > an also be > > > > extended. > > > > > > Does anyone have this, who would like to comment on how > > extendable it > > > is? For example. if I wanted to limit the html editing controls my > > > users had (no fonts or colours, for example, or only stylesheet > > > classes) could I do this? Or say I wanted to change the > > colour of the > > > component to match my app... > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Kay. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Kay Smoljak > > > ---------------------------- > > > http://kay.smoljak.com > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
