Try this:
http://www.newatlanta.com/bluedragon
There's no information there yet about the .NET version--the "official"
announcement will be made next week.
Vince Bonfanti
New Atlanta Communications, LLC
http://www.newatlanta.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Lees (National Express)
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:22 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF - PHP comparisons?
>
>
> Where can I find out more about Bluedragon?
>
> Jason Lees
> Development Team Leader
> National Express Coaches Ltd.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 14 February 2003 14:20
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF - PHP comparisons?
>
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I tend to agree with your comments regarding the "richness"
> of PHP. If you do a straight comparison of PHP and CFML's
> built-in functions then they seem pretty equal. However, one
> thing that's changed in the CFML world with the introduction
> of CFMX and BlueDragon is that you now have seamless access
> to the full set of Java APIs from CFML. With the release of
> BlueDragon for .NET you'll similarly have seamless access to
> the full .NET Framework (APIs) from within CFML.
>
> In effect, the set of CFML functions is being expanded to
> include all of the Java APIs or all of the .NET APIs,
> depending on which platform you prefer.
>
> It seems to me that since PHP is not built on either of the
> two major "platform" technologies (Java or .NET), it's
> "richness" is going to suffer in comparison as CFML
> developers learn to take advantage of the integration with
> Java and .NET.
>
> Also, look at the way CFMX leveraged the Java platform to
> implement web services support (via Apache Axis). PHP is not
> going to be able to take advantage of the underlying platform
> technology the way CFMX did; instead they're going to have to
> implement their own solution "from scratch". It seems to me
> that this will be a major disadvantage of PHP.
>
> Vince Bonfanti
> New Atlanta Communications, LLC
> http://www.newatlanta.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike Alberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 3:33 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: CF - PHP comparisons?
> >
> >
> > Since I develop with both CF and php, I guess I'll add my .02...
> >
> > Also respectfully to you Dave, this is NOT a terrible
> > comparison. With the exception of the part about user defined
> > functions, the comparison seems pretty valid to me, even
> > though it is quite old.
> >
> > In addition, php has made great strides in the last couple of
> > years: There are at least 3 very good IDE's for php (Zend
> > Studio, Nusphere PhpEd and Activestate Komodo), as well as
> > some decent simple code editors (php coder/Maguma Studio, etc.
> >
> > Zend has done some other great things for php, like code
> > encryption, acceleration, caching, etc. Granted these
> > products are not free, but their new 'Small Business Program'
> > lets you get all of that stuff with the IDE for a $295
> > lifetime payment. This is an absolute bargain.
> >
> > Now I still love the CF language, and it's what I prefer to
> > code in, for its ability to let me get projects done quickly.
> > But over the years of using CF I've developed my own
> > 'methodology', that implements the Application Framework, as
> > well as some other ways of doing things that are sort of like
> > Fusebox (only simpler). I've personally found that I can use
> > this same framework in php as well, and the only thing that
> > changes is the syntax of the language. Many things in php
> > (switch/case for example) are almost identical in both
> > languages (using the CF version with cfscript tags of course).
> >
> > And don't think that php isn't 'rich'. More than once I've
> > sat down to write a function in php and realized part way
> > through that there was already a built in function to
> > accomplish the task.
> >
> > To me, it all boils down to what Sean said .... both
> > languages have their strengths and weaknesses. Use the right
> > tool for the task at hand. I'm not even going to comment on
> > ASP (ugh), but php is a fine tool in its own right and even
> > though it does take longer to develop with than CF (for me),
> > it still allows me to do some cool stuff for clients, which
> > makes them (and me) happy.
>
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