Granted,Todd. However you must admit that it shows: 1) Effort was made to market the program to .ASP and PHP developers. 2) the Same effort, or no effort, was made to market the software to CF Developers.
A well known and respected CF Developer had to ASK whether there were any CF specific improvements or features that we've been looking for Why? To me that is a glaring oversight on the part of a marketing team that has Coldfusion as one of its foci. Is there a feeling that CF Developers have no alternative BUT to use Dreamweaver therefore MM chooses not to list even one CF Enhancement because it just isn't as important as capturing the .ASP or PHP market? I've not read a reason for the above between yesterday and today, except to have it confirmed that there ARE CF Enhancements....but that they just weren't worth putting as part of a marketing campaign. This could be compared to an issue raised in the past where MM sent out a survey that did not include CF as a web application server package (or something similar). As a lay person on the outside looking in, this would tend to suggest that somewhere along the line within Macromedia either there is not a focus at the right level, or no cohesive vision which includes marketing CFMX/CFML to a wider audience. Perhaps this contributes to the fact that employers and business owners are far more familiar with .ASP and now .PHP than they are with CFMX or any version of CF? Dave, with all due respect I am not 'flaming' anyone. I am questioning what I see as ommissions in the marketing of a product that is a great tool for CF Developers, but this fact appears nowhere in the initial marketing material for that product. Could you tell me the reason for that? That's what I'm trying to find out, and I think that was part of the sentiment behind the initial question before this thread became one about Homesite. How does the that fact that there is no mention of Coldfusion Enhancements help me when I go to a client to push a CF based server solution? Or when I am seeking employment and answering a question like,"What's the future of coldfusion with Macromedia" ? I cannot point and say," Look, they are introducing MX 2004 suite and they've said it contains enhancements for....uhh...ASP and....umm..PHP...but take my word for it there is lots of CF specific stuff in there too!". The point is not whether there are enhancements or not. The point is that no mention was made in the initial marketing on the website meant to hook people and draw them to buy and use the product. Why? That is my question and it is an EXTREMELY valid one, and that's my point. It is not a flame. -Angel -----Original Message----- From: Todd Rafferty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Angel, I think majority of this was discussed yesterday. There are some stuff in DWMX that are CF Specific, but they also have to make DWMX look attractive for other technologies as well. ~Todd Date: 08/26/2003 10:11 AM Author: Dave Carabetta Short Link: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=m:4:26647:134190 With all due respect, you're flaming a product that isn't even *released* yet!! Before making judgements based on initial marketing, why not wait for the product, download the trial, and make your own informed decision. Better yet, go to your local CFUG on September 3 for the worldwide MM meeting to view the sneak peek. Do you honestly think MM considers MX "yesterday's technology"? Did you suddenly forget about Red Sky, which clearly wasn't your standard service pack? I agree that I haven't seen much that's CF-specific in the initial marketing hype, but somehow I doubt that the strategy team at MM decided to leave one of their core communities out of their plans. And if you're still not happy when it comes out, it's not like you can't develop CF templates using another IDE. Give them some time to get their ducks in a row. I think this whole discussion is way too premature to be making the assertions you stated. Regards, Dave. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
