Based on the topics you are listing, I'm assuming they're pretty well
educated in web techniques and dynamic pages, presumably by using .asp and
.php or other technologies.

My suggestion would be to keep the comparisons low key.  Let ColdFusion
speak for itself whether it's better than .asp or not.  For example,  when
you're talking about doing a database query, it'll be tempting to say " ..
and with coldfusion you can connect to a database and do a query with only a
couple of lines of code, rather than the .asp you're used to which you have
to do all this stuff. . "     If they know .asp, they'll know how much they
have to write to connect to a database and do a query. If you come across as
overly preaching, they'll turn off.    Just show them how easy it is to do a
query in coldfusion and they'll make the comparison themselves.  And you
wont look like you're trying to ram it down their throats.

Of course if one of the attendees wants to say how easy that is compared to
what they're doing now, I would give him all the time in the world to say
so.

Another thing that'll be tempting is to tell them how great CFMX is, in an
effort to get a movement going to upgrade.  I strongly urge you to hold that
in check too.   If you tell them too many times ".. and with the new CFMX
you can do this  .."   you'll come across as telling them lots of things
they can't have.  A mention of flash remoting perhaps and the easy reuse of
code with CFCs  but keep that low key.   CFMX will sell itself once you get
some of them converted to CF thinking.   I would have thought what you want
to end up with is a whole lot of disciples who love the CF5 they have and
who will start using it.  Once they get immersed in CF, the new version will
happen, as long as you've planted the seed.  If you try to plant a whole
forest, I think you'll  hit a lot of resistance.

Just my thoughts.



Cheers,

Michael Kear

Windsor, NSW, Australia

AFP Webworks.







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Subject: ColdFusion workshop - any ideas?

G'day,

I've been given the un-enviable task of bringing non ColdFusion programmers
and total newbies up to speed with ColdFusion - only version 5 at this
stage but MX will be plugged.

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