You can always go back to some old code and find problems that can be better
addressed. You're manager has a VERY valid point. If you're user base is
educated with, and comfortable with the 'bad' system the way it is, don't
disturb it.
However, when you are being paid to recode specific components of that
system, then would be a good time to revise the process.
For now, I would focus on delivering top quality new deliverables and
revisit and rebuild previous mistakes at such time there are budgets and
common will to do so (users and developers).
Trey Rouse
Web Systems Manager - Rice University
713.348.4799
-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua O'Connor-Rose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:24 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: a tricky situation
My worst contract ever.
ok so I'm about to loose my cool and being that this
is a professional list and I'm trying professional does
anybody have any suggestions for how to approach a
senior who acts in this manner.
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me (9:55:48 AM): so now that we have 6.1 theres this
issue that's been bugging me (using ~ to designate
breaks) and with 6.1 theres a real easy way to fix the
issue using a nifty udf (user defined functions)
developed by Ben Forta (heard of him?) called
paragraphFormat2(str)
senior (10:01:16 AM): the function just uses replace()
to flip a char with another...yes?
me (10:01:43 AM): yes
me (10:01:55 AM): but instead of requiring the user to
put in ~
me (10:02:09 AM): it looks for chr(13) and chr(10)
me (10:02:23 AM): carriage returns and line breaks
me (10:02:57 AM): it also formats tabs
senior (10:03:17 AM): doe sit pick up soft returns?
me (10:03:55 AM): yes that's a line break
me (10:04:00 AM): chr(10)
senior (10:04:05 AM): what about spaces before soft
returns?
me (10:04:47 AM): leaves those alone
me (10:05:26 AM): (I think only ms word strips extra
spaces oh and html unless there is a character before
the soft return)
senior (10:06:22 AM): not to sound sarcastic...I am OK
with it bugging you for now...they are used to the ~
and they dont have to learn anything new...good item
for the wish list
senior (10:06:22 AM): not worth the time for now
me (10:23:03 AM): well to be clear as to where I stand
(so it can't be said I didn't communicate my feelings)
I believe its what professionals call bad code and it
bothers me as much as improper tabbing bothers you but
you seem fine with that.
senior (10:25:36 AM): it's all about time and
money...if we worked for free...we could bring
everything up to date...alas, we dont
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This is but one example of his defense of old code
that is just terrible (the worst is approx 16 pages
made to email/fax/preview an approval to a client).
Yet to the owners he is the golden boy because he
produces these 'miracles' of the web
Any advice
-Joshua O'Connor-Rose
-All is Good
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