On Sep 9, 2004, at 8:02 PM, Rob wrote:

> > There have been rumors that Apple has an OS X that runs on��Intel
> CPUs.
>
>  Not a rumor - http://www.opendarwin.org/
>  I have installed it a couple times to play around with it. Pretty
>  impressive. The Apple GUI is *not* included (you'll need to get
>  xwindows and gnome or kde or ...), but most servers don't have GUIs
>  anyone (not worth mentioning anyway)
>
>  Open source and free btw with lots of apps ported already (it's really
>  a modified BSD system) http://darwinports.opendarwin.org/
>

Nah, I meant all of OS X -- including the GUI (more difficult because
they would need to design vor more varied hardware options)

Darwin's good -- but if they are in for a penny they should be in for
$$$

>  > Big omission is a robust db -- but there are several open-source
>  > options.
>
>  Postgres - which is the next generation ingres that everyone seems so
>  enamored with - is a very robust database (and yes it does stored
>  procedures)
>
>  > Rhetorical questions:
>  >
>  > What would be the acceptance if Apple released OS X Tiger on Intel,
>  > Solaris, etc. Say 1Q 2005?
>
>  I think the main reason more people don't run apples is they are
> expensive.

I wasn't talking about buying an Apple computer -- I was asking if they
would buy OS X to run on their current hardware

>
>  > Could Apple grab the Linux/Unix desktop?
>
>  I don't think so only because Linux has more drivers for x86 hardware
>  then BSD (and therefore OSX)

Can't they buy that capability?

>  does; however, if they would lower their
>  prices on the Gs and ditch the "I am an artist therefore I use a Mac"
>  image, I think they have a good chance at a larger desktop share.

Again, I was not asking about hardware, just the OS

>
>  > Could Apple make a dent in the windows desktop?
>  Windows, I think, is its own worst enemy at this point. They are going
>  to drive people off their own stuff because they are too hard headed.
>  I've heard more people say "I want to get��my business off Microsoft
>  products" more so then ever.
>
>  People didn't think the Roman Empire would fall either.
>
>  > Is this the time and place?
>
>  Not yet, but soon.
>
>  > Should they?
>  Yes by all means
>
>  I know this is off topic, but I've had a rough day and this seems to
>  lighten the mood a bit :)
>

Good -- I'll find a polka for K

(Haven't looked at the new cfEclipse yet, but sounds good)

Dick

P.S. Can you talk about not being in the Blackstone beta too -- or you
one of the blessed?

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