> On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 20:14:44 -0700, Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > On Sep 9, 2004, at 8:02 PM, Rob wrote:
> >
> > > > There have been rumors that Apple has an OS X that runs
> on��Intel
> > > CPUs.
> > >
> > >��Not a rumor - http://www.opendarwin.org/
> >
> > Nah, I meant all of OS X -- including the GUI (more difficult
> because
> > they would need to design vor more varied hardware options)
>
> I first downloaded Darwin because I thought it came with the GUI -
> when I found out it didn't I bought a Mac - so I think people would
> buy it. I would've bought OSX for x86 instead of the G4 - so that one
> sale would have sucked for apple (99��vs 1,200). For it to work I
> think they need volume - whole companies moving their x86 boxes to OSX
No, I am not talking about invading Iceland -- rather invading Redmund
Here is an interesting article -- tho a little dated.
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20020214.html
>
> > Darwin's good -- but if they are in for a penny they should be in
> for
> > $$$
>
> I hear you. My dad used to say, "are you in business to make a little
> bit of money or a whole s**t load of money?"
Yeah, If Jobs has the stones -- and I think he does -- the stars are
coming into alignment
>
> > >��>
> > >��> What would be the acceptance if Apple released OS X Tiger on
> Intel,
> > >��> Solaris, etc. Say 1Q 2005?
> > >
> > >��I think the main reason more people don't run apples is they are
> > > expensive.
> >
> > I wasn't talking about buying an Apple computer -- I was asking if
> they
> > would buy OS X to run on their current hardware
>
> I personally think that the OSX GUI is better than Gnome, KDE, Icewm,
> fluxbox, etc; I also think that OSX has a better usability creditably
> then Linux desktops.
I agree ( except no experience with fluxbox?)
Noone does better than Apple on the UI -- and the UI is everything!
> What I meant by the expensive thing is, in my
> experience most developers who see the apple GUI comment��something
> along the lines of "that's awesome" with a purchasing twinkle in their
> eye - then they grab the price tag and walk away - if it was on x86
> then that last part would be gone.
So, say Apple sells OS X Intel for $49 (while lowering the price to the
same level for OS X G4/5)
With a dual boot/execute (ala OS 9) option, you give up nothing and
have everything to gain.
> So, yes I think people would buy it. Some would feel more comfortable
> with an Apple backed x86 OS than say using a Red Hat desktop.
How about compared to a MS-backed x86 OS?
>
> > >��> Could Apple grab the Linux/Unix desktop?
> > >
> > >��I don't think so only because Linux has more drivers for x86
> hardware
> > >��then BSD (and therefore OSX)
> >
> > Can't they buy that capability?
>
> From who? Some Linux drivers are GPL which would be right out. They
> would have to port some LGPL over from Linux (minimal perhaps), or
> convince the vendors to port their windows versions over to BSD (or
> OSX if that part is different enough). I guess they could have a
> smaller set of supported hardware, but to be effective it would have
> to run on a wide array of systems and hardware I think.
>
don't know how to respond -- is is doab;e?
> > >��does; however, if they would lower their
> > >��prices on the Gs and ditch the "I am an artist therefore I use a
> Mac"
> > >��image, I think they have a good chance at a larger desktop share.
> >
> > Again, I was not asking about hardware, just the OS
>
> Yeah sorry about that - but I love my G4 :-D. The desktop is the bomb
> whatever the hardware (today its just not available in x86)
>
> > Good -- I'll find a polka for K
> She'll like that now that she is running her little iMac and is in
> love with iTunes - you've created another monster :-o
>
Good -- you don't deserve her, yet!
> > (Haven't looked at the new cfEclipse yet, but sounds good)
> tis
>
> > P.S. Can you talk about not being in the Blackstone beta too -- or
> you
> > one of the blessed?
>
> I am not in the blackstone beta - I think macromedia fears me cause I
> don't know when to shut it ;)
>
Me too!
Dick
> Cheers
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