They do, features like the reporting tool and the event gateway are aimed towards business users. I have used Crystal Reports alot, and everytime there were always large bugs or consistencies in the product. There are other products yes and Oracle offers a superior product but that comes with a superior price too. It was a relief when the CF report builder was released. Such functionality always does it well in business environments, managers kill for. I switched reporting the provision sheets, I create at the end of each project, from Crystal Reports to the CF reports builder. Although Flash is the unique product of Macromedia like Dave mentioned, I don't think it really helps Flash in marketing as it would have helped ColdFusion. Flash already has the market, ColdFusion obviously does not. If Flash has a new feature/version/player, sure do marketing. If no other product needs extra attention, sure do marketing for Flash. But when the need is there do marketing for ColdFusion. Micha
________________________________ From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 5/2/2005 7:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? For some reason I was thinking that CF should be targeted at business users as well... - Calvin -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:55 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? Well said. Also, considering the shift in the marketing at MM, its not surprising that they're moving towards selling to business users and not developers. They've already carved out their niche to developers as being the #1 honcho when it comes to web development tools. Face it, even if they converted the whole site to be one big banner for Flash, almost everyone on this list would still use CF. With alot of their newest products being specifically for business users, its not surprising that they've chosen to put up a little eye candy... Kevin ---------- http://www.keslabs.com -----Original Message----- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? If I were in charge of Macromedia, I'd do exactly the same thing they're doing. I'd be far more concerned about selling Flash and its dependent products (Breeze, Flex, FlashComm, Flash Video, FlashLite, etc) than about selling CF. I like CF, don't get me wrong, but it's not the unique kind of thing that Flash is. It will always be somewhat of a niche product, no matter how good or popular it is. Flash, on the other hand, is clearly the most important asset that Macromedia has. It is the core of Macromedia's business. It is the one thing that Macromedia has, for which there's no competing product. It's installed on practically everybody's computer. And, at some point, I do recall seeing a CF 7 banner at the top of the MM site. I don't know how long it was there, though. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205293 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
