Isn't that a self fulfilling process?

There's more developers for LAMP, therefore you should push/agree to LAMP.
That results in another potential loss of a client to a CFML based solution.

This in turn, results in the corollary argument that "There's a much larger
client base for LAMP. I'd consider that a factor in where you spend your
time learning technology".

If indeed it was accurate to say that going with LAMP results in equivalent
applications that are developed and maintained as efficiently and cost
effectively (including software acquisition costs AND development/research
time) as with a CFML centric solution, then I suggest we close this mailing
list and all move over to some PHP/MySQL lists.

I don't really think that is the case though.

I think if the customer really did his homework as you suggested, he might
find that hundreds of thousands of developers, the most mature web
application platform (Remember this is the 10th anniversary of CF), and
record CF sales means that CF is a viable and sustainable investment, backed
by a significant company and in line to be backed by an even more
significant company (combined Adobe/Macromedia). I don't think finding
someone would ever be an issue, there's a good number of CF developers not
employed or looking for additional work all over the country/world.

And finally, the beauty of the CFML solution is its ease of use, even if you
could not find someone already versed in CFML, anyone with any decent web
application skills in any language can easily pick up and work on a CFML
app. Even folks without previous knowledge will make really fast progress on
coming up to speed.

- Calvin

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 6:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF vs LAMP

There's a much larger developer base for LAMP.  I'd consider that a factor 
in selecting the environment - probably even in selecting the developer if 
a developer insists on using a particular environment.

If I were the customer I'd try to do my best to get a feel for the 
environment that the developer is proposing.  They may foresee dropping 
your company (or at least they should keep it in the back of their minds 
as a possibility) and then finding someone to continue site development or 
maintenance may become an issue.  While there are plenty of CF shops out 
there, going with LAMP gives them a lot more options.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 11:25 AM
Subject: CF vs LAMP


> We have a client that is trying to decide whether to go with my company 
> or
> another company.  We are a CF/MS SQL shop, and the other company does 
> LAMP
> development (Linux, Apache, MySQL, Perl).
>
> I was wondering if anyone on this list can give some ideas of the pros 
> and
> cons of using CF/MS SQL vs LAMP.
>
> I know for a fact that perl code is harder to read and maintain, and 
> that's
> it's probably slower since it's interpreted every time instead of
> pre-compiled as CF is.  I know MS SQL has more features (such as stored
> procs) that MySQL lacks.
>
> What other pros does CF/MySQL have over LAMP that might sway a potential
> client?  Personally, except for the fact that LAMP is free, I don't see 
> any
> advantages of it at all.




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