John Paul Ashenfelter wrote:
> the way you claim though I'll concede the point for i18n -- but not
> necessarily for l10n (localization).

yes, you want it for l10n as well (you seem to be missing the point of 
i18n, it's to make an app ready for l10n). why on earth would you want 
to manage an app across the dozens & dozens of encodings, many of which 
are for the same language? and yes, mysql was considered a joke for that 
kind of application (and so was php but that's another story).

> Let's say you're building a data warehouse -- doubling the size of the
> text columns in the fact tables (from varchar to nvarchar) to make
> them unicode as opposed to using the correct character set makes a

unicode is the "correct" encoding as far as many orginzations like the 
w3c goes. it's what the marketing yokels like to call "future proof", 
which doesn't made it any less true.

> noticable difference in size. If I've got a German client, I'd rather
> use the appropriate character set for the varchar columns instead
> supporting unicode; but if I have a mix of Cyrillic, Western, and Big5
> data I'd certainly use Unicode just like I would in MS-SQL.

any complex i18n app will have a mix of locales/languages. what you 
describe for a german app isn't and most likely won't remain "just for 
german" these days for long. then you're faced with moving that db into 
unicode like it should have been in the first place.

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