Not interested in employability as in "being an employee"...
I'm self-employed and plan to stay that way...can never be fired.
Does have its drawbacks, but for me it's the only way to go.

Rick


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:03 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web
> applications?
> 
> 
> Additionally, learning Javascript when in a web appllication 
> world, can only
> improve your capabilities and employablity.... 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:56 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web 
> applications?
> 
> Seems like you're doing more work trying to avoid work.
> 
> - Matt Small
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:50 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web 
> applications?
> 
> Thanks for the insights, Barney...
> 
> Question:  Can an inline frame be setup to trigger another iframe 
> when some
> action is performed that triggers it?
> 
> Not clear, I know...so...a scenario...
> 
> Three iframes on a page...click on a link in first frame, second frame
> responds, and causes third frame to respond....like a chain reaction.  If
> so, would this substitute for concurrency?
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:38 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web 
> > applications?
> >
> >
> > The biggest problem with using frames is concurrency.  You can't do 
> > more than one thing at a time (unless you have two frames, then it's 
> > two things at a time), which can be very troubling.  With Flash and JS 
> > remoting you can perform multiple concurrent actions, which is very 
> > useful.  You also get the capability to pass complex data fairly 
> > easily, and move a lot of your UI logic to the client-side, which 
> > results in a far better user experience.
> >
> > And don't think you can use inline frames without JS.  When the frame 
> > loads, you have to parse out the content that you need, and then 
> > rebuild the visible document with that new content.
> >
> > cheers,
> > barneyb
> >
> > On 10/27/05, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi, all...
> > >
> > > I've been interested in building web applications that don't require 
> > > a page refresh for a few years now.  First Iooked at Flash...didn't 
> > > like it a few versions ago...and still don't.  Don't want to work 
> > > with the Flash GUI or learn ActionScript.
> > >
> > > Now, along comes AJAX...everyone's excited.  But upon further 
> > > examination, to use it I've got to learn Javascript and other
> > technologies
> > > about which I know virtually nothing.  (And no...I don't have a 
> > > market at this time that would justify the effort)
> > >
> > > My question is this...why not just use inline frames (as someone 
> > > mentioned recently as their method for building applications)
> > to simulate
> > > "non-page refreshing" apps?
> > >
> > > I've used them a little, but not a lot, so I'd like some feedback on 
> > > what the drawbacks are to building apps using inline frames...I
> > can stick
> > > to Cold Fusion and HTML alone...no Javascript, no 
> > > Actionscript...sounds good to me.
> > >
> > > Can anyone point me to some online examples of significant inline 
> > > frames usage to build apps?
> > >
> > > What am I missing?
> > >
> > > Thanks for any feedback and guidance...
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Barney Boisvert
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 360.319.6145
> > http://www.barneyb.com/
> >
> > Got Gmail? I have 100 invites.
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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