> My first AJAX interaction (which was very simple) took me about 15 minutes
> to complete from googling the term to implementation.

But how long would it take you with little or no JS experience...

> My first AJAX interaction

Got that in tutorial form?

Rick


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:16 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web
> applications?
>
>
> My first AJAX interaction (which was very simple) took me about 15 minutes
> to complete from googling the term to implementation.
>
> Granted I already have exposure to Javascript, but it is worth it.
>
> - Calvin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 4:50 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web
> applications?
>
> > Apologies for getting all philisophical and preachy, but such is life.
>
> No...you're absolutely right.  I know that AS, JS, and AJAX are outside my
> "domain", experience, and comfort zone.
>
> I come at this not from a programmer for a corporation, where my job may
> depend on knowing some of this stuff.  The sites I build are dynamic using
> CF, but no other languages.  I'm a one-man shop with relatively small-time
> clients who don't even know what a "dynamic site"
> is until I introduce it to them.
>
> Being an independent designer/programmer (CF), without a salary, I have to
> work project to project for income and none of my clients are asking for
> Rich Client apps...but some are asking for office apps to use in-house to
> replace software.  I'm always looking for better ways to do that, but at a
> reasonable cost / effort perspective.  They have no demands for Rich
> Clients, but I often sell solutions I develop before clients know
> they need
> them.  But some solutions are just too costly to work on.  (Time mainly,
> which translates to income)
>
> The question I'm asking myself is would something like inline
> frames suffice
> for now, since they're easily implemented?  I'm doing the same
> sort of thing
> with CFINCLUDEs for tables, etc., instead making clients go to
> another page
> to fill out a form, I just CFINCLUDE the form on the page when they click
> the "Add Account" link.  Looks to me like the only thing refreshed is the
> DIV I'd placed the table in.  (Just been playing around with DIV's as
> containers)
>
> Rick
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 4:30 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web
> > applications?
> >
> >
> > Well, JS remoting capabilities have been around since the late
> > ninties, so it's hardly new technology.  I'm not sure why there's been
> > a sudden upsurge in interest, because it's certainly not a new
> > concept, and has been used all over the place for many years.  I think
> > the word AJAX has some subconcious appeal to people, because that's
> > all it is: a buzzword.  There is no such thing as AJAX technology, no
> > versions of it, nothing.
> >
> > I'll certainly agree that IFRAMEs are easier to understand than JS
> > remoting, but then, a steak knife is easier to understand than a
> > compound miter saw as well.  You could frame a house with either one,
> > but, well, you see where I'm going.  ;)
> >
> > Part of being a good developer is being familiar with enough tools to
> > pick the right one for a job, and also to appreciate that some jobs
> > fall outside your domain experience, and you'll either have to expand
> > your domain, or turn down the job.  It's a hard fact of life (no one
> > likes to say "yeah, um, I don't know how to do that"), but it is a
> > fact.  And the more varied your knowledge, the less it'll happen.
> >
> > Apologies for getting all philisophical and preachy, but such is life.
> >
> > cheers,
> > barneyb
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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