Bang on brother. I think it's funny when CF gets bashed as a 'lesser' 
language too. We're talking about the first web application server. CF 
gets a bad rap because it's tag based. You have all of these admin types 
who were already using Perl and Python scripting within their server 
environments, adapting it's use for web development, because it's what 
they knew. Remember the days when most of your cgi scripts were written 
in C or C++? It's what people knew. CF came along, with a structure that 
was easy for fledgling HTML writers to adapt to, but it wasn't a 
'programming language'.

I'm not going to knock Perl or Python or Ruby. They are all great 
languages in their own right, with huge development communities and 
hundreds of open source programs for people to use and learn from. But 
CF has grown into this form just as much, in my opinion. And the cost 
factor is a moot point. Yes, CF server is expensive, and many hosting 
solutions are still pricey by comparison. But if you factor in TCO and 
ROI, I believe that CF development is a better investment. That's my 
opinion, others may disagree, but I think if people really looked at the 
numbers it would more than back it up. Thing is, developers are going to 
use what they are comfortable with, and management isn't always going to 
base decisions on technical reality but on the technical buzzwords 
they've read in CIO and InformationWeek.

I think Adobe is starting to make great strides in improving the 
visibility of CF. I think bringing Tim Buntel back in his current 
capacity is a fantastic move, and the right guy for the job. I also 
believe that Adobe can do more. One thing I think would be very helpful 
is if they applied some folks to providing some CF and Flex libraries 
for the Amazon's, Google's, Yahoo's, etc., who consistently provide 
'sample' libraries for interacting with their API's (typically in Perl, 
Java, and .NET). People will see CF within those lists and start asking 
themselves "What's ColdFusion?" It could be a highly effective form of 
passive marketing for Adobe.

OK, I've gotten off track on my rant. I love CF, and all of ya'll who've 
given me help/advice over the years on this list. While I'll dabble with 
other languages, I'm leaving my flag planted in ColdFusion soil.

Cutter
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http://blog.cutterscrossing.com

Andy Matthews wrote:
> It's so irritating when people think that Coldfusion "costs" money. Unless
> you're hosting your own server, the only cost is virtual hosting, which
> you're going to have to pay no matter what. You also don't need a special
> editor to code CF.
> 
> So, having your own server aside, Coldfusion is as free as Ruby, Python or
> PHP. I wish that Adobe would start marketing Coldfusion in that matter,
> focusing on the "free" aspects of it.
> 
> Anytime I encounter someone who has a skewed perception of the costs of
> Coldfusion, I always make a point to break down the costs using the above
> scenario. Usually they're taken quite aback because "everyone knows that
> Coldfusion costs thousands of dollars to use."
> 
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> andy matthews
> web developer
> certified advanced coldfusion programmer
> ICGLink, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 615.370.1530 x737
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