Just out of curiousity, do you use any kind of methodology for you CF
applications? Most people that have really used fusebox seemed to like it
and CFObjects sounds interesting also. How do you get away from having a
million cfincludes w/in cfincludes or knowing which files do what? What is
wrong with the naming conventions? VB has the same thing, really.
I do have concerns about the increased processing time but I've never seen a
huge increase in my applications. I try to break down each part of the app
in separate folders so its index file isn't really that monolithic. Most of
the apps I do are fairly complex so having things fit a system seems to work
for me.
-Craig Bowes
Coldfusion Programmer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
972.243.1171
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karl Simanonok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: fusebox
> I have used the Fusebox development methodology for several projects, as
> have most of the developers I work with. We all dislike it. It
> slightly increases development time, obfuscates CF debugging, and
> necessitates superfluous code and processing time by routing every page
> call through an index.cfm. We now only use it when clients insist that
> they want their applications built around it (usually they've heard a
> little about Fusebox and think it's cutting-edge so they want it without
> really understanding it).
>
> A well-designed and well-written application does not need to be redone
> in Fusebox to make it better. However, a poorly-designed or
> poorly-written application may benefit from Fusebox because then it will
> be somewhat easier for later programmers to come in and fix it. I would
> only recommend that a new application be written Fusebox-style if it is
> going to be very large and complex, there will be a lot of developers
> working on the application, and if many of those developers are
> ColdFusion beginners (and then only if you ignore the terrible
> filenaming conventions). That's because Fusebox does have some value in
> making the page-flow logic easier to follow for people who are not
> familiar with all of the application, or who are CF beginners. That's
> its only significant advantage. Otherwise you can avoid some unnecessary
> development time (and later CPU overhead) and focus on programming the
> application's logic flow according to your business needs rather than
> shoehorning it into the somewhat arbitrary Fusebox development
> methodology.
>
> If you're really having trouble deciding whether to use Fusebox or not,
> it may be helpful if you ask yourself what's more important in your
> situation: adopting the latest fads in CF development methodologies, or
> optimizing your application?
>
> Regards,
>
> Karl Simanonok, staff consultant
> Advanta Solutions, Inc.
>
> Original message:
> ===========
> Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 17:35:26 -0600
> From: "Craig Bowes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: fusebox
> Message-ID: <005801c045ee$becf3f00$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Yes! Fusebox rocks. It has made my code smaller, more manageable, more
>
> reuseable and easier to understand while being loose enough to let me do
>
> whatever I need to get the job done. I HIGHLY recommend fusebox to any
> CFDeveloper. It is based on Object Oriented Concepts that standard
> desktop
> programming environments have had for years but which web development
> hasn't
> been really able to take advantage of.
>
> The new job I am at has adopted it as company policy because of me and
> so
> did my last job. Also, fUseML is pretty useful although I am still
> learning
> it. They have a book published on Fusebox and fuseml that looks pretty
> good. The print version hasn't been shipped yet but if you buy it you
> get
> the .PDF version pretty quick and then the print later.
>
> go to http://www.fusebox.org
>
> -Craig Bowes
> Coldfusion Programmer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 972.243.1171
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 2:53 PM
> Subject: fusebox
>
>
> > Is anyone out there using the fusebox methodology?
> >
> > I have recently started this position here and I am the Cold Fusion
> lead
> and
> > I was toying with the idea of recommending that we use the Fusebox
> method
> > for the complete REdeployment of our corporate Intranet.
> >
> >
> > any feedback is well appreciated.
> >
> > chris.alvarado
> > cold.fusion - developer
> > [phone] 512.794.6563
> > [email] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [web] http://www.tmanage.com
> >
>
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