I don't see anywhere in those terms that a lawyer could *without a doubt*
use to hold Google harmless if Google's servers were hacked (their fault)
and a client's login info stolen and used to access a bank account.

I think a jury would see Google as liable for their failed security.
But I'm no lawyer...

I do however, begin to get concerned when clients want their personal data
"secured" that a weak password could come back to bite them and me as well.
The weak password, it would seem to me, would have to be the result of a
user's sole choice, bypassing all guidance and cautions that I provide, 
including
a strong password option.

It is an interesting discussion.  As my clients become more widespread and less
"personal", the chance of lawsuits increases.

Just want to protect my "assets"...

Rick

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 9:35 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: SSL Necessary? Important?
> 
> Would you consider gmail to be pretty important if you used it daily like I
> do?  Let's take a look at what Google says in their EULA:
> 
> =====================================================
> 6. Your passwords and account security
> 
> 6.1 You agree and understand that you are responsible for maintaining the
> confidentiality of passwords associated with any account you use to access
> the Services.
> 
> 6.2 Accordingly, you agree that you will be solely responsible to Google for
> all activities that occur under your account.
> 
> 6.3 If you become aware of any unauthorized use of your password or of your
> account, you agree to notify Google immediately at [snipped URL].
> =====================================================
> 
> I don't remember that gmail had very strict password rules.  Yet their
> legalese basically negates the need since they pretty much label you
> responsible for everything that happens under your account.  If my bank gets
> hacked because I use my same username / password as my gmail and it was
> obtained via gmail somehow, does that legalese mean Google is in the clear?
> 
> ~Todd
> 
> On Jan 25, 2008 9:17 AM, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Well, I was just kinda "giving the bottom line".  Of course, in the real
> > world, a much "kinder, gentler" way of saying it would be appropriate.
> >
> > I can also compromise by letting you choose your password, but stipulate
> > that it require one or more of certain characters, a mix of caps and lower
> > case, etc.,
> > or I can allow you to choose your own password without any stipulations,
> > but you have to sign a waiver holding me harmless.
> >
> > I don't see that as unreasonable.  You get to decide how to handle your
> > password, if you like, but you just can't blame me in the case of a poor
> > choice which leads to your ruin.  I'm not going down with you...
> >
> > I think that's fair.
> >
> > I'll be most EUA's have something like that buried in their "legalize".
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Rick
> 
> 
> 

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