I live in a city of about 250,000 and once I find a new job, I'll end coding
in a different language and there's nothing I can do about it. I've tried
finding positions that will let me work remotely, but with justification, a
lot of companies aren't comfortable with that and I'm not willing to move
just to keep programming in Coldfusion.

A sad reality...

!k

-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:10 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion: Some People Just Don't Know Any Better

>I'm not surprised. The big question continues to be "What can Adobe do 
>to promote ColdFusion?" CF gets press on releases, and Adobe has 
>actively and aggressively marketed toward the government IT sector for a 
>few years now. I just want to see the articles that say "Yeah, we're 
>migrating from .Net to ColdFusion. It's just a much more dynamic and 
>integrated platform."

The problem a lot of people are mentioning as well is lack of developers. It
becomes a vicious circle...developers jump to another platform because there
are more jobs, so it becomes harder for employers to find ones that are
experienced in CF, so they switch, which makes jobs even harder to find,
etc. So it really has to be a two-pronged attack...getting more people to
want to use CF for their sites, but also getting more developers to learn
it. And of course, trying to keep hosting options as well. I really do think
the cost of the server is an issue, when it comes to getting more people on
board. Certainly at the Enterprise-level it's not an issue (or shouldn't
be), but for small-time developers that want to run their own box, it's a
hard sell. And these are the folks that are needed to really grow support
for the platform. I ran into that just this week with someone that was in
college and wanted to learn my software and put up a store using his own
box. I might have been willing to do some kind of educational discount, but
the cost of ColdFusion pretty much made the whole discussion moot. I'm
hoping eventually Railo or SmithProject might become more viable as low-cost
options...but even if they do, they're likely to be options only those of us
that are already invested in CF will know about. I imagine this is something
a lot of us that sell CF applications run into...if you sell a .Net or PHP
application, it's not a big deal who someone is hosting with, as the vast
majority of hosts offer these. If you have a CF application though, if a
normal merchant finds you through Google or some other application/script
listing site, 9 times out of 10 they are not going to be able to run your
application because their host doesn't run CF (or they are
using...gasp...GoDaddy!) So before you can even sell you on your
application, you have to sell them on switching hosts. It's a tough
situation, for sure. It's one thing I really liked with the Railo licensing,
which works with the way their server can configure different "webs" as
separate entities and then license each individually, versus a more costly
full-priced server. It's a great low-cost entry that is attractive to a
small developer, while still requiring someone that is using the server to
host many sites to pay a reasonable price. 






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