Your examples aside, the below paragraph was intended to point out that all
possible users need to be considered for a 'better mouse trap', not just the
developer's notions.  Being hearing impaired yourself, I would have expected
that you would understand the need to adhere to Section 508 guidelines as
well as those issues that may not be addressed in Section 508, as opposed to
taking my point personally, rather than an overall suggestion to all.


>Why is being able to read an issue for the deaf again?  Being hearing
>impaired myself, I'm kind of stumped on that one.  In fact, how is reading
>a simple text on a page an issue for anyone that can't hear or is color
>blind?  If you're worried about the color blind / deaf community not being
>able to pass a simple question, then I don't know what to say to that.


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-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Rafferty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Beyond Captcha

First, it was a quick example off the top of my head so sorry I screwed that
one up - silly me.  Next time I'll point to
http://simplebits.com/contact/instead.  His question is "Is fire hot
or cold?"  Second, Ok?  Your point?
It doesn't invalidate what I've seen already.

The blind, I can see things being an issue, but if a screen reader can read
the page and reads the question correctly, not sure how this is an issue.

Why is being able to read an issue for the deaf again?  Being hearing
impaired myself, I'm kind of stumped on that one.  In fact, how is reading a
simple text on a page an issue for anyone that can't hear or is color
blind?  If you're worried about the color blind / deaf community not being
able to pass a simple question, then I don't know what to say to that.

On Feb 7, 2008 2:32 PM, William Seiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Unfortunately both of those examples can be seen as biased.
>
> The first one implies only one of them is true, when both are true fire
> and
> ice both can give burns.
>
> The second one implies that the reader knows enough about math to do a
> simple word problem.
>
> The enduring problem with a form protection system that interacts with the
> user is that it has to be useable by all users.  The highly intelligent,
> the
> blissfully unaware, the blind, the deaf, the colorblind, the average as
> well
> as the developer.
>
> William




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