I'm not trying to "win" jerry, just showing that myself along with lots of other people on here have had issues with them above and beyond what would be acceptable. The only people I have seen who speak up for ct are on their own boxes, you don't see many people on their shared servers speak up at all.
And when people come on and ask for cheap hosting and people come on and give recommendations of cheap servers but don't give any info on that fact that yes they are cheap but they also don't include any support and really anyone who is looking for cheap hosting probably will need all the support that they can get in which case a cheap server really isn't in there best interest. you can get a plain jane cheap unmanaged server anywere, it's the support when you need it that in my book is where I prefer to be covered. Or like I said before... if i cant be reached and there is a problem I want my customers to know they are covered. Now would you host with someone would tell you that they are running mysql server 2000 and not just once as in a "oopsy" but as in several times, even after informing them that no such product exists and all that after waiting over 45 minutes on hold to talk to them? Not too mention most of the actual coldfusion team will not host there, too me that says something. While what Jim does is great for him I don't think it would be good for someone who needs hand holding on a server. Obviously, he can recommend whatever he wants but he should also add the facts to it because most people will assume that ct's ded boxes are comparable to hms ded boxes and they aren't, one includes support one doesn't but the average person asking doesn't know that. And personally, if i took jims recommendation and went to ct and signed a contract and then found out I had no support I would be pissed as hell at jim. So if by "losing" you mean that if someone reads this and has a boner over a $120 a month dedicated box (which I would also assume jim has a cfm license for which isnt included in that cost) and it helps keep them from getting into a major mess, then I am fine with that. I would rather have the facts out there to help them out see how has the cheapest server... and after all.. you get what what you pay for. >Dave, as a fairly impartial observer, talking general professional and >personal respect, you aren't going to win this one against Jim, I >don't think. > >Lol! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299219 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4

