On Feb 16, 2008 10:04 PM, Dave l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not trying to "win" jerry, just showing that myself along with lots of > other people on here have had issues with them above and beyond what would > be acceptable. > The only people I have seen who speak up for ct are on their own boxes, > you don't see many people on their shared servers speak up at all. >
I'm on a shared server, and I love 'em. Sorry Dave. > And when people come on and ask for cheap hosting... Remember that the original poster *asked about CrystalTech specifically*. His post, also indicated (to me at least) that he'd done some research already on his own and kept coming up with CrystalTech. > and people come on and give recommendations of cheap servers but don't > give any info on that fact that yes they are cheap but they also don't > include any support and really anyone who is looking for cheap hosting > probably will need all the support that they can get in which case a cheap > server really isn't in there best interest. you can get a plain jane cheap > unmanaged server anywere, it's the support when you need it that in my book > is where I prefer to be covered. Well, that' "your book". The original poster said *nothing* about support in his criteria for his own personal "holy grail" of hosting. I (again this could just be me) take that to mean that William is a big boy and can take care of his own support. He also *specifically* mentioned that he wanted shared hosting. So all this talk about unmanaged, dedicated boxes is not really what he was looking for, right? Or like I said before... if i cant be reached and there is a problem I want > my customers to know they are covered. > again, not one of the original poster's concerns. He listed his concerns very clearly. This wasn't one of them. > Now would you host with someone would tell you that they are running mysql > server 2000 and not just once as in a "oopsy" but as in several times, even > after informing them that no such product exists and all that after waiting > over 45 minutes on hold to talk to them? So, you've never misspoken before? Wow, you're really super critical. Did you also correct the reps. grammar while you were at it? Not too mention most of the actual coldfusion team will not host there, too > me that says something. What do you mean by that? Who is "the actual coldfusion team". I'm assuming this an eat-your-own-dog-food thing... what's your source? > While what Jim does is great for him I don't think it would be good for > someone who needs hand holding on a server. What makes you judge the original poster in this way? At what point did you decide that he needed his hand held? His list of what he was looking for in a hosting company was, again, very clear... and hand holding was not mentioned. Sounds to me like the guy knows how to take care of himself. Obviously, he can recommend whatever he wants but he should also add the > facts to it because most people will assume that ct's ded boxes are > comparable to hms ded boxes and they aren't, one includes support one > doesn't but the average person asking doesn't know that. And personally, if > i took jims recommendation and went to ct and signed a contract and then > found out I had no support I would be pissed as hell at jim. If you took one person's suggestion without doing anymore homework, or if you asked for suggestions on a host and support was *really* important to you, but you failed to mention that, then I'd say you were the fool and should be pissed at yourself for not doing more homework. Do you like, *work* for HMS? Also, Jim never once in any of this compared Crystal Tech to HMS. You did that. > So if by "losing" you mean that if someone reads this and has a boner over > a $120 a month dedicated box (which I would also assume jim has a cfm > license for which isnt included in that cost) and it helps keep them from > getting into a major mess, then I am fine with that. I would rather have the > facts out there to help them out see how has the cheapest server... and > after all.. you get what what you pay for. You keep talking about 'facts', but you're only using anecdotal evidence (which is what we are all doing), but when someone else's experience differs from yours you dismiss what they said as 'non-fact', and instead substitute your own anecdotal evidence as fact. Which is exactly what Jim was getting at when he said, "As we've come to expect all other opinions are incorrect because you're experience differs." I'm afraid that's how you're coming across even if you don't mean to. Also, there's nothing to "win" in this. We should all just grow-up a bit. *steps off soapbox* Chris > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:299226 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
