Actually Adobe has been saying since cf.Objective 2009 (I was there in person) that their user based has grown 300% over the last 5 years. From 250k users around 2004 to over 800k users in 2008/2009.
As for XYZ company just bought CF Enterprise, they're not going to share that with you unless it's for a white paper. Have you gone to the Adobe site to see if they've released white papers? It just seems like that unless you're personally looking for a CF job and can't find one, why do you care if other people think CF is dead? Andy matthews -----Original Message----- From: Mike Kear [mailto:afpwebwo...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 7:34 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs in Australia What would be a whole lot better is if someone said 'no you are wrong, Mike, look at all the things we're doing to promote Coldfusion to .net/php/java users: a: b: c: etc' or "No Mike, you're wrong the server customer base has increased over the last year by xx%" or "No Mike, we presented at a .Net conference in Sydney last July, and at a .php conference in Melbourne in August ... etc " but there's none of that at all. Not a sound. Not even 'hey look at the great new user that bought CF Enterprise! ...' or "look at this great new CF application that XXX Pty Ltd put in .." Nothing from Adobe. I might be wrong - I hope I am, but Adobe didnt know much about what to do with a server product when they bought Macromedia, and I got the impression that many Adobe people see it as a bit of an orphan, a bit of a non-core product, and not a good career move in Adobe to be associated with it unless you're Ben Forta. I got the feeling that Adobe people think it's something they got stuck with when they bought Macromedia for what they REALLY wanted - Flash and Dreamweaver. Certainly in Australia i have yet to hear of anyone at Adobe who is annoyed because I am painting them in a bad light that's undeserved. Let me say here and now that I will VERY rapidly change my tune on this if anyone can show me that I'm wrong about this. But let me summarise the 3 main factors: [A] hardly any jobs for over a year now [B] hardly any promotion activity on ColdFusion apart from preaching to the converted at CF Conferences [C] Very little or no interest in Coldfusion from the usergroups. Does that add up to a vibrant, growing, thriving community? Either prove me wrong someone, or stop bashing me for being critical and for gods sake lets poke someone in the ribs who's in a position to DO SOMETHING about it! Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Will Swain <w...@hothorse.com> wrote: > > I read it as a commentary on the state of cf in general, not > specifically in Australia. > > Can we amend the subject line - we really don't need more grist for > the 'cf is dead' mill > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:329912 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
