On 1/31/2011 11:02 AM, denstar wrote: > It was based on a percent. So I guess the real number would be 170 > out of a 1000. I think. 17%? I suck at math.
you said 17 out of 100 people who replied to that survey. that's a useless sample size. > Still relatively useless, I reckon. It's all about perspective (or 1000 is a bit better but still tiny compared to the community. > If the number had been 0, perhaps. no, a sample of 1 is still not really worth mentioning besides the fact that it really can't be the only reason for the swap. > once again be the engine powering said crap. If I switch to PHP, > there is, IMHO, markedly less of a chance for Adobe to ever be the > engine powering my crap. perhaps but it's hard to say exactly why a shop would swap technologies. sometimes its a stupid a reason as what some clown wrote in one of those "tech" rags like sys-con. > And let us not forget that a lot of pointy-headed-bosses *love* big yes that's true but those same "pointy-headed-bosses" keep a lot of developers employed. > I still wouldn't mind seeing the figures. Anecdotal-ish-ly, it seems > like the number of OSS projects has "exploded" over the last couple > years. perhaps but it's just as likely that there is now a place to put & publicize those OS projects (you know, the one that adobe sponsors). as i said my OS stuff has nothing to do w/either of those. and let me also point out that most of ray-the-OS-engine's apps predate railo/BD going OS. i don't see any causal relationship. > Deadly seriously. =) you claim that prior to BD/railo failing as commercial projects there was no stability in CF? geez that's a stretch. > Do most companies donate the source code to their users when they go > out of business, in your experience? no idea, though i guess that's exactly what BD & railo did. > I guess it's all relative. And maybe that 17% is a lie. Nobody likes > free good stuff. ;)p i have a big bottle of wine laced w/rat poison which i will let you have free. it's certainly good wine except for the rat poison (though the rat poison is also pretty good rat poison). i guess you want that too? > It's not about Adobe and Railo having a love-in and making babies (& > FWIW, it's us devs bringing the drama). that's not true & you know that's not true. > My point was, that not only would Adobe's base have shrunk, but the > "CFML" base would have shrunk as well, had I "left". you're leaving might not have had anything to do w/cf being a commercial product (i don't know your business but i can't really see the cost of cf being much of a factor in developing s/w, even here in the "3rd world" it's not all that much money relative to everything else involved). it could be that your shop wanted to adhere to an OS only principle which has nothing to do w/economics. > If you only care about Adobe making money, then there is no real > difference between the two. i care about adobe being around to support & improve cf. they need profits to do that. > However, if you care about your fellow CFML coders putting food on the > table, so to speak, then there is a pretty big difference between the > two. again i don't see that. dev s/w is free. deploying can be pretty cheap. if you're doing enterprise level of development then the cost of cf is pretty small. > Open Source Software is a powerful, driving force in today's software nobody's doubting that but the cf market is different than PHP. they aren't eating their own intestines. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341706 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
