On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Dave Watts wrote: ... > Now, I don't really have a dog in this fight - while I'm an Adobe > partner, and resell Adobe products, I simply haven't seen any impact > on that business from the open-source engines. But I haven't seen > anything I'd qualify as "abuse" coming from either Adobe or anyone > speaking on Adobe's behalf, even indirectly. It's not abuse to point > out the cannibalistic effect that competing open-source engines may > have on the ColdFusion market. It strikes me as kind of absurd for the > people arguing in favor of these engines to say that they'll draw new > developers to CF; perhaps they'll keep people on CF who would > otherwise leave, but those are two different things. To me, really > only one thing is certain - if ColdFusion does not continue to make > money for Adobe, they'll drop it like yesterday's news.
My kind of dog fight involves air planes. :) Cannibalistic sounds rather grim, but I guess grim is pretty hot these days. Like Open Source-- The kids love it, and the girls go wild for it. Patience doesn't seem to be a very popular virtue. It's a shame, but it's natural. Why do you think it's absurd to think that open source engines will bring more people? Do you think the only thing that makes a language "worth" something, is how much it costs? What about my argument about one in the bush, vs. none in the bush? Is that illogical? Different, sure, but... everything's different, relatively generally speakingly. And say Adobe did drop CF-- do you think that would spell the end of the language? I don't consider myself outgoing, but I end up in various circles, and pay a bit of attention... and the various circles, to me, seem to be pointing at Adobe hanging with CFML to be a good idea. Because, obviously, I don't think it will go away if they drop it. On the contrary, I think they're in a good position to maybe, just maybe, keep up with the evolution of the software industry. At least as far as CFML is concerned, but take a look at the landscape here- the writing is on the wall. There's a battle going on, re public/private, open/closed, but it's not about the existence of one or the other anymore-- it's about balance. Adobe knows this. They haven't been contributing AIR stuff to open source projects just to get warm fuzzies. Bah. I love to talk and talk. Who really knows WTF is going on. Not I, surely... but at least I didn't say "mindshare". =) FWIW, Railo follows the general theme of software development. The stable version gets more testing than the beta, which gets more testing than the alpha, etc.. Bugs are part of the game. Even Apple products fail sometimes, though they do a pretty good job of downplaying it, IMHO. Amazing; the power of perception! /me looks amazed, emphasistically :Den -- Man is born free and everywhere he is in chains. Jean-Jacques Rousseau ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341777 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
