Thank you, Dave, I missed that bit. When I read Adam's post he wasn't directly quoting another post so I had not connected his statement to that of Russ'
Personally, I don't think that anyone has been terribly mean to anyone else by historic tech debate standards. I did challenge Adam on his statement and I've yet to see where he has identified the "abuse" being heaped on Adobe from people involved with the other engines. It seemed rather unprofessional to me but that is neither here nor there. I cannot make a comment about the OS engines cannibalizing sales or creating new cfml developers and such, I don't have the data. I can comment on my perceptions of Railo versus Adobe as a developer and have. I think that some things get rather personal rather too quickly on mailing lists and that is a shame. And I do agree with you about Adobe dropping CF if they don't make money on it, that's just a fact of business life. Thanks again, Dave. Judah On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Dave Watts <[email protected]> wrote: > >> You have it exactly backwards, Brian. Adam accused the Open Source >> cfml community of being abusive toward Adobe. >> >> And I quote from Adam: "The "open CF" side of the community couldn't >> be more abusive >> towards Adobe. It's laughable to think that the community holding the OS >> vendors accountable would make someone leave CF." >> >> I called Adam out on this statement and will continue to do so. The >> Railo and CFEclipse lists, at least, are quite far from abusive toward >> Adobe. I do not monitor the OpenBD lists, so perhaps there is >> something going on there that I am unaware of. But the accusation of >> abuse came from Adam, not the other way around. > > That's a response from Adam to a post by Russ. You may want to read > that post. To save you the trouble of finding it, here's the relevant > line: > > "Attitude of the CF community (mainly caused by certain people being abusive > to Railo/BD) > Attitude of Adobe" > > Now, I don't really have a dog in this fight - while I'm an Adobe > partner, and resell Adobe products, I simply haven't seen any impact > on that business from the open-source engines. But I haven't seen > anything I'd qualify as "abuse" coming from either Adobe or anyone > speaking on Adobe's behalf, even indirectly. It's not abuse to point > out the cannibalistic effect that competing open-source engines may > have on the ColdFusion market. It strikes me as kind of absurd for the > people arguing in favor of these engines to say that they'll draw new > developers to CF; perhaps they'll keep people on CF who would > otherwise leave, but those are two different things. To me, really > only one thing is certain - if ColdFusion does not continue to make > money for Adobe, they'll drop it like yesterday's news. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341750 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
