The problem here is that many on this list, demonstrate what I'll term "list psychopathy"...
Many of the smartest people on the list don't understand the difference between the need to be correct and the need to empathize, which is a key aspect of psychopathy. Sometimes people just need to vent and not be corrected, and to have someone not necessarily say, "I agree", but "I understand where you're coming from." Agree as much as you can, then let the rest go. It was a hard lesson for me to learn, but people are not programs, who attitudes can be "debugged" by making the correct key strokes, or in this case, even perfectly correct sociopathic arguments. Rick -----Original Message----- From: Will Swain [mailto:w...@hothorse.com] Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 8:12 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices You are very passive aggressive dude. Which is a shame, as by taking that tack, and not actually responding to Dave's points, you reinforce the troll image. -----Original Message----- From: Irvin Gomez [mailto:ir...@pixel69.com] Sent: 11 November 2011 06:04 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices > > I would never call you a trool. Because I have a spell-checker. Childish. > Perhaps I'm being ungenerous, but that kind of response from you > indicates to me that you don't take this seriously enough to engage > your brain cells and actually read what was written. More childish attack. >Which, you know, > kind of makes you look like a trool after all, if you know what I >mean. Even more childish. >Anyway, to give you the benefit of the doubt, here's an executive >summary of what I wrote, paragraph by paragraph. > > 1. CFLib belongs to Ray. > That doesn't mean he can't get help from the *assumed* CF community. He is alone because the small community does not have new blood. New blood carries the torch and keeps things moving. The 'old-timers' are too busy discussing OOP concepts -which is their right. The problem is that the lack on new blood will eventually kill CF - and that's the simple point I make. > 2. Why are new tutorials needed, since CF's basic functionality hasn't > changed significantly? > A cursory glance at how things stand today will show any objective observer that a lot of those resources are obsolete, in need of re-vamping (lots of new features have been introduced) or were deleted a long time ago. > 3. There are plenty of beginner and intermediate questions on the list. > But how many lists are there? And how many questions in this list? In fact, it could be argued that this list is perfect example of a stagnant community. > > 4. People blog about their interests, not solely for promotional > reasons. > Once again, I'm not holding the small CF community responsible for anything. Strawman argument. > 5. CF is a successful product. > That doesn't mean it is not dying slowly. Strawman argument. > 6. The CF "community" is not composed solely of Adobe employees. > You love your straw man, don't you? > 7. Your behavior looks like trolling, even if you're not a troll. > More childish stuff. > 8. If you want more evangelism, be an evangelist. > Strawman argument. I never said I wanted more 'evangelism". > So, out of those, there's one paragraph that mentions trolling, and > states you may well not be a troll. Given your apparent level of > reading comprehension, you might want to read these things more slowly > and carefully. > More childish, dishonest attack - but it seems the norm with you. > > In any case, why 10 years? > Because people have been posting this crap here for ten years already. > They were posting it when CF was called "Allaire Cold Fusion." > The way things are going, the ten years may not be necessary. But only time will tell. Hope you're right, though. I hope Coldfusion remains a valid option for many years to come. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:348648 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
