ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On Nov 11, 2011, at 5:34 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote: > > No one has the right to be a hard-ass, I don't > care how much they've helped. That kind of attitude > towards people only convinces passive participants > from becoming active ones...especially beginners. > Hard-ass responses on lists will contribute faster > to the death of a programming language faster than > poor marketing. > > Not even Jobs had the right to be a hard-ass. He > just couldn't find a way to mature sufficiently to > find a way to lead towards his vision without > destroying people along the way. But he, and others, > like it that way because it's easier than being > discerning. > > And Dave, and others like him... if you notice a question > that requires empathy, why not just avoid answering it in > the future. That's the best response you could give > in those situations. If you're not going to help, > just stay quiet. > > Just as you can answer in any way you like, those can > also post any perspective they like, even "CF is dead!" > (or dying, or whatever.) > > You guys make such a mountain out of a mole hill. > > Grow up... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Russ Michaels [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 5:37 PM > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices > > > its hard to show empathy when people are rude and insult you simply > because they don't like the answer or the fact that you don't agree > with them. These people should try getting married then they will > quickly learn that sometimes oyu must bite the bullet and admit your > wrong even if you think your right :-) > I think Dave has earned the right to be a hard-ass occasionally given > the amount of help he gives others on here. > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Rick Faircloth > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> "The 'correct' answer is the one you get"... wrong. >> >> It's almost never the one you get, whether technically >> or psychologically. >> >> It's easy just to be a hard-ass all the time. I know from >> personal experience. It's more difficult to show empathy >> when it's needed, rather than try to rebut someone's >> personal perspective, which cannot usually be proven wrong. >> >> People who mature learn to tell the difference >> and act appropriately. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dave Watts [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 1:06 PM >> To: cf-talk >> Subject: Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices >> >> >>> True, but I see almost no empathy when people are expressing broader > issue >> concerns rather than >>> issues of a technical nature. Therein lies the clue to the correct >> response. >> >> You want empathy? Go to a shrink or talk to your bartender. >> >> On a free mailing list, the "correct" response is the one you get, not >> the one you want. And these "broader issue concerns" typically don't >> have any positive resolution, have been brought up countless times, >> etc, etc. Saying "CF is dying" on a CF technical list isn't really an >> appropriate statement for the list. And of course, it always turns out >> that CF is dying because you don't like what Adobe is doing with it, >> which is beyond the control of everyone on the list - whether you >> agree with it or not. You know, I think it would actually be OK if >> someone asked how to help CF, but that's never what these "concerns" >> are about. It's all about your dislike for Adobe's marketing plan, or >> pricing, or whatever. Well, this is not the place for that. >> >>> Sometimes the technician, sometimes the counselor. >> >> No one pays me to be a counselor. On here, no one pays me to be a >> technician either, so I reserve the right to answer questions as I see >> fit. >> >> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software >> http://www.figleaf.com/ >> http://training.figleaf.com/ >> >> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on >> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized >> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite >> >> >> >> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:348686 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
