Some good suggestions, Mark, that address the original question. ;o)

I've used POP hooks (if I know what you're referencing), as I described
in a earlier post, to based on a scheduled task that ran every 10 minutes
or so, and check a third-party email provider to see if an email with a
specific email had been delivered.  If that email had arrived, it triggered
other scheduled tasks that could be run only after the email had arrived,
since that told the scheduled tasks that certain data was ready from a
third-party, for me to download and process. This just automated the process
of having to check the third-party email for the specific message's presence
with my intervention at any point.

During work on that little project, I realized that CF had great potential
for handling email, not only as a sending mechanism, but in parsing, storing,
etc., email.

And to your point of creating conversation with some sort of unique piece of
data common to only appropriate threads: Some earlier mentioned using a
message id as that item that I could link only appropriate messages, rather
than relying on subject, as Outlook does.

Several have mentioned IMAP, so I need to do some research on it's potential.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Drew [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 7:12 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?


I see what you mean now and yeah, that shouldn't be *too* hard to build. 

If I had to solve this I would look into either IMAP or POP hooks into the mail 
server. THen import that into
a database for example, so it can be queried. 

The problem with your SMS Vs Email analogy is that (on my iPhone anyway) my 
message history is by person. In
email, the history is by conversation (or subject line) which you need some 
parsing to get that they are
related and then more parsing to remove replies. 

There are some things that can help, for example (in Railo anyway) there is a 
EMail Event Handler that will
trigger actions when a new email has arrived into your POP mailbox. 

You could extend it to work with IMAP for example and search in the Sent folder?

I would really have to look at the options you have with your mail server. 

The NEXT thing (and if I recall, I think Russ mentioned this to me a long while 
back) could be actually
creating a SMTP/POP EventGateway that then stores emails and what have you . Or 
find a SMTP/POP server that
has an API that you can then work with, of which I don't know any. 

Anyway, just some thoughts that I am sure you have also had. 

Regards

Mark Drew

On 18 Apr 2013, at 12:04, "Rick Faircloth" <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> I can tinker with that approach, and it might prove beneficial.
> 
> But I am really after an automated setup that creates a storage
> system for original-topic emails, along with the replies I send.
> 
> Much like text messaging provides currently. I can follow a text
> message conversation easily, because my replies are automatically
> displayed in-line with the other persons responses.
> 
> Email should work the same way. I shouldn't have to "filter" or
> "search" or anything else to be able to view an entire conversation.
> 
> We seem to be stuck in the paradigm of thinking email users should
> store replies in various folders. And in order to get my response
> into the conversation, I have to go to a "Sent Items" folder and
> each time manually copy my replies into a particular folder.
> 
> Even a basic setup that includes all parts of a conversation,
> like this email list, is preferable to anything I've found in
> current offerings.
> 
> And it should be relatively easy to build. Just have CF manage
> that emails behind the scenes as the conversation flows. Then, 
> should I want to review or send a *complete* conversation to 
> someone else, I can simply refer to what CF has created for me.
> 
> It's ridiculously complex to try to reassemble an email conversation.
> It's time for a new approach.
> 
> That's what I'm trying to accomplish and what led to my original question.
> 
> Rick
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Drew [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 5:40 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Anyone ever created their own email archive with CF?
> 
> 
> Going back to the original question, one thing we use is 
> http://highrisehq.com/ which basically by BCC'ing
an
> email in every reply you do (or forwarding an email) it can be stored against 
> that client. Would that help?
> 
> I know it's not automatic, but then again, I am not sure of your goals. 
> 
> 
> Sincerely
> 
> Mark Drew
> 
> On 16 Apr 2013, at 02:04, Rick Faircloth <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I've been trying to find a good way to store email
>> *from* AND *to* my clients. (you know, create that
>> really handy paper trail you need sometimes...)
>> 
>> I've tried all sorts of ways from The Brain to Evernote
>> to One Note, but nothing works easily or automatically.
>> 
>> Just wondering if anyone has tried this.  I found nothing
>> about it when searching the Internet.
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



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