I take offense to that statement. No one says that Allaire shouldn't be
able to eat dinner. I shouldn't have to suffer under some new licensing
model. I made a commitment to the product (albeit 4.0 and 4.5, doubtfully
5.x). In order to stay competitive in the hosting market place I will be
forced to upgrade to the latest version. The person who, unfortunately,
will end up paying for this will be the end user. The price of hosting a CF
plan will have to go up. It is just the nature of the game where cost
increase and so does end user price. Its sad because people want to host CF
sites and don't want the pay the $19.95 a month we charge now.... What we
are saying is don't blatantly rob the people who are supporting the
community. As a web host who hosts plenty of CF sites I find many people
who want to use the product and develop code but are unable to afford their
own license. As a hosting provider I shouldn't be forced to pay more. We
have plans in place for current and future customers that would need to be
completely reorganized with the newest edition of CF Server.
One another note I thought I would let you know that CF has pulled me out of
a deep sleep all too many times. Allaires product is good however it is far
too dangrous when you have someone behind the wheel who doesn't have a
drivers license. I rarely have that case with ASP. There is an Added
comfort with ASP as it is designed and integrated by the OS manufacturer.
Also it is not written to overrun CPU or memory with the simplest error.
On a final note: ASP is free and there are no doubt or argument about it.
It doesn't cost more to implement or download.
Neil
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 10:54 PM
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
> > What MM should release an enterprise server version for the
> > product for $695 with no support. If you want support buy an
> > annual contract. Would you rather sell 10 copies at $695 with
> > no support or 1 copy at $6,000?
>
> Well, if I'm paying a little per-copy to Netegrity, some more to Verity,
I'd
> probably stick with the one copy. More margin. It's a good thing they
bought
> Live Software and BrightTiger, so they wouldn't have to pay for those
> components, and even better that Allaire got bought by MM - have you any
> idea how expensive Generator 2 EE is? Yikes!
>
> Again, it's easy for us to all speculate on how easy it would be for MM to
> rule the world if they just did things our way. In my humble business
> experience, every business looks pretty easy until you start doing it
> yourself.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> voice: (202) 797-5496
> fax: (202) 797-5444
>
>
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