Well, to this I can honestly say that that is not true.

We do CF Hosting and charge low fees, without any problems.

We're currently averaging $8.00 a month (on a year plan) or in some cases
users select the $5.00 for life plan that DOES include CF Hosting.  So, if
you really feel that the users must pay more, simply because the price is a
bit more, than that's your opinion, which you are entitled to have.

Pablo Varando
CFM-Resources.Com, Corp.
http://www.cfm-resources.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: New CF5 Partner Hosting License


> I take offense to that statement.  No one says that Allaire shouldn't be
> able to eat dinner.  I shouldn't have to suffer under some new licensing
> model.  I made a commitment to the product (albeit 4.0 and 4.5, doubtfully
> 5.x).  In order to stay competitive in the hosting market place I will be
> forced to upgrade to the latest version.  The person who, unfortunately,
> will end up paying for this will be the end user.  The price of hosting a
CF
> plan will have to go up.  It is just the nature of the game where cost
> increase and so does end user price.  Its sad because people want to host
CF
> sites and don't want the pay the $19.95 a month we charge now.... What we
> are saying is don't blatantly rob the people who are supporting the
> community.  As a web host who hosts plenty of CF sites I find many people
> who want to use the product and develop code but are unable to afford
their
> own license.  As a hosting provider I shouldn't be forced to pay more.  We
> have plans in place for current and future customers that would need to be
> completely reorganized with the newest edition of CF Server.
>
> One another note I thought I would let you know that CF has pulled me out
of
> a deep sleep all too many times.  Allaires product is good however it is
far
> too dangrous when you have someone behind the wheel who doesn't have a
> drivers license.  I rarely have that case with ASP.  There is an Added
> comfort with ASP as it is designed and integrated by the OS manufacturer.
> Also it is not written to overrun CPU or memory with the simplest error.
>
> On a final note: ASP is free and there are no doubt or argument about it.
> It doesn't cost more to implement or download.
>
> Neil
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 10:54 PM
> Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
>
>
> > > What MM should release an enterprise server version for the
> > > product for $695 with no support. If you want support buy an
> > > annual contract. Would you rather sell 10 copies at $695 with
> > > no support or 1 copy at $6,000?
> >
> > Well, if I'm paying a little per-copy to Netegrity, some more to Verity,
> I'd
> > probably stick with the one copy. More margin. It's a good thing they
> bought
> > Live Software and BrightTiger, so they wouldn't have to pay for those
> > components, and even better that Allaire got bought by MM - have you any
> > idea how expensive Generator 2 EE is? Yikes!
> >
> > Again, it's easy for us to all speculate on how easy it would be for MM
to
> > rule the world if they just did things our way. In my humble business
> > experience, every business looks pretty easy until you start doing it
> > yourself.
> >
> > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > http://www.figleaf.com/
> > voice: (202) 797-5496
> > fax: (202) 797-5444
> >
> >
>
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