Put up a small linux box running qmail and qmail-scanner.  Runs pretty
quickly on my old 133Mhz.  Here are the links if you want more 
information.

http://www.qmail.org
http://qmail-scanner.sourceforge.net

There's also a good qmail mailing list if you need help with the 
install, 
or I could offer my own consulting services ;-)
-Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I hate spam


Hey Mike listen to Len, he knows what he's talking about. He is the go 
to
authority when it comes to stopping viruses and spam at the server 
level.
All he was trying to say is this, if you get an extra box, nothing too
magnificant and set it up to relay to your list server, and set up that
box's ip address as the mx. You could configure the server to stop the 
spam
and you would only need your code to grab things that may slip through.
Granted what you have works pretty well here, he was just trying to 
help you
make it so there was never these issues. Len has some great free 
products he
has come up for free with and has been a huge help with the Imail 
community.
Take a look at his webpage at http://imgate.meiway.com/ . All free 
solutions
and he doesn't even ask for a dime. 

Don't be offended by my stance as email doesn't tend to have my tone of
voice. I appreciate what you do for the list I just trying to explain 
Len's
point a bit better.

Robert Everland III
Dixon Ticonderoga
Web Developer Extraordinaire

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: I hate spam


This has nothing to do with MX. It has to do with my custom code that 
reads
 
and cleans the mail for viruses, attachments, etc. When it detected a 
spam
 
message, it removed it to a separate directory, emailed the spammer and 

then aborted. The abort was not needed and I fixed it. Now that its 
fixed,
 
I can field as many posts and as much spam as I want with no delay or 
slowdown. The main stoppage was that massive post, but I fixed that as 
well. God, I love using CF for this stuff. Takes no time to write up 
exceptions and such.

At 12:06 PM 12/21/01, you wrote:
> >The lists were down for 2 hours today because we had a massive 
influx of
> >spam targetted on the lists. I have code that deals with it, but it 
still
> >caused the lists to hang. I have some new code to stop the list 
handing
 and
> >remove the spam with no problems. At no time will spam be sent to 
the
 list
> >members.
> >I hate spammers.
>
>For such a big list server of such importance and for ANY mailbox 
server,
>the current and increasing nastiness "out there" requires that mailbox
>servers and listservers NOT be the MX host, but be protected by an 
SMTP
>proxy gateway that takes the crap on the chin and stops it, protecting 
the
>the SMTP application boxes.
>
>Len
>
>
>http://MenAndMice.com/DNS-training
>http://BIND8NT.MEIway.com : ISC BIND 8.2.4 for NT4 & W2K
>http://IMGate.MEIway.com  : Build free, hi-perf, anti-abuse mail 
gateways
>


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