Another box to handle this might be a good idea but remember that we're 
basically a total non-profit outfit that's mainly supported by me. Even our
 
bandwidth is donated by cfhosting.com (thank's guys). When I get another 
box I'm setting it up as a SQL server so we can have real searchable 
archives for all the lists going back to day 1. Everything is in access at
 
the moment. It works, but....
I've found that the code that's been in place has handled just about 
everything thrown at it till now. With these new mods, it should have no 
problems going on in this area. The ability to just fix a problem in a few
 
minutes on the code level is a major advantage and gives me a lot of 
control over what's going on.
I do appreciate the feedback and ideas but at the moment I can't implement
 
them.

At 12:18 PM 12/21/01, you wrote:
>Hey Mike listen to Len, he knows what he's talking about. He is the go to
>authority when it comes to stopping viruses and spam at the server level.
>All he was trying to say is this, if you get an extra box, nothing too
>magnificant and set it up to relay to your list server, and set up that
>box's ip address as the mx. You could configure the server to stop the spam
>and you would only need your code to grab things that may slip through.
>Granted what you have works pretty well here, he was just trying to help
 you
>make it so there was never these issues. Len has some great free products
 he
>has come up for free with and has been a huge help with the Imail
 community.
>Take a look at his webpage at http://imgate.meiway.com/ . All free
 solutions
>and he doesn't even ask for a dime.
>
>Don't be offended by my stance as email doesn't tend to have my tone of
>voice. I appreciate what you do for the list I just trying to explain Len's
>point a bit better.
>
>Robert Everland III
>Dixon Ticonderoga
>Web Developer Extraordinaire
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:13 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: I hate spam
>
>
>This has nothing to do with MX. It has to do with my custom code that reads
>
>and cleans the mail for viruses, attachments, etc. When it detected a spam
>
>message, it removed it to a separate directory, emailed the spammer and
>then aborted. The abort was not needed and I fixed it. Now that its fixed,
>
>I can field as many posts and as much spam as I want with no delay or
>slowdown. The main stoppage was that massive post, but I fixed that as
>well. God, I love using CF for this stuff. Takes no time to write up
>exceptions and such.
>
>At 12:06 PM 12/21/01, you wrote:
> > >The lists were down for 2 hours today because we had a massive influx
 of
> > >spam targetted on the lists. I have code that deals with it, but it
 still
> > >caused the lists to hang. I have some new code to stop the list handing
>  and
> > >remove the spam with no problems. At no time will spam be sent to the
>  list
> > >members.
> > >I hate spammers.
> >
> >For such a big list server of such importance and for ANY mailbox server,
> >the current and increasing nastiness "out there" requires that mailbox
> >servers and listservers NOT be the MX host, but be protected by an SMTP
> >proxy gateway that takes the crap on the chin and stops it, protecting
 the
> >the SMTP application boxes.
> >
> >Len
> >
> >
> >http://MenAndMice.com/DNS-training
> >http://BIND8NT.MEIway.com : ISC BIND 8.2.4 for NT4 & W2K
> >http://IMGate.MEIway.com  : Build free, hi-perf, anti-abuse mail gateways
> >
>
>
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