On Monday, April 29, 2002, at 01:51 PM, Vernon Viehe wrote: > Having a Mac version of CF would be nice, I'm just not sure there's a > business case for building it (engineering hours are VERY expensive! > I'm in the wrong business!! =). Macromedia isn't one to leave money > laying on the table, so you can bet that if/when it looks like it will > be profitable to make CFMXOSX, we'll do it! =) > > Meanwhile, you can use a remote testing server (DWMX makes this easy!), > so Mac folks aren't blocked from CF development, they just won't have > it all in one box. >
I've been doing that since 1998... I develop on a Mac using BBEdit and test on the (remote) hosted CF sites. But, I want to develop on the Mac... Run on the Mac then deploy on the web. Also, eventually develop self-contained, standalone apps (like on a CD or Kiosk) that run on any platform. Because of its intrinsic power, RAD ability, and DB Interface, CF seems a natural for this... (all it needs is a standalone app server... hmm)! DWMX would probably not improve the above! Dick > Vernon Viehe > Community Manager > Macromedia, Inc. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 1:41 PM >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: Re: CFMX OS X [rant] >> >> >> On Monday, April 29, 2002, at 12:46 PM, Neil Clark - =TMM= wrote: >> >>> I think as I stated earlier, is that Apple / OSX is not in the >>> mainstream for things like ISP's etc... So in business >> terms it would be >>> suicidal to create an OSX version of server software which >> you may sell >>> only a handful of units. >>> >> >> As I recall, we're not too far removed rom the days when "CF >> was not in >> the mainstream for things like ISP's. etc" >> >> >>> I must admit, I have never been a fan of Macs (and yes, I have used >>> them) but OS X is stable[er] than most Apple OS' I have seen/used. >>> >>> It�s a case of supply and demand - you have to view the stats of how >>> many Windows / Linux / 'real' Unix users there are against >> Apple OS - >>> they are overwhelming, making an OSX version harder to justifiably >>> produce. >>> >> >> What do you define as a 'real' Unix user. CLI only... if so, why are >> there several GUIs available for Unix. >> >> OSX just has a better GUI. The OS X CLI is also superior... >> multiple, >> scrollable CLI windows (copy. paste, resize. change font and size, >> print, etc). >> >> In OSX you can start/stop Apache with a mouse click. Just because >> 'real' Unix is harder to use, it doesn't necessarily make it >> better. If >> that were true we would all be writing DOS programs in assembler! >> >> >>> Remember that Windoze, 'real' Unix etc.. are all tried and >> tested (and >>> broken), just because Apple suddenly started to use a >> different approach >>> to its underlying achitecture does not mean to say that it had >>> underlying motives for software vendors, in fact it was >> probably to make >>> it run faster and have less Error Type [fill the blank] >>> >> >> OSX's underlying architecture is BSD Unix. On top of that >> they provide >> Darwin (open source) and the Aqua GUI >> >>> I also think it would be stupid for ANY software developer to start >>> producing tried and tested server software for OSX as of yet. >> >> >> While I think there is a good potential for server software >> on OSX, I'll >> not argue the point. I am more interested in the developing/testing >> side of the operation... CF, especially, opens web/database >> programming >> to the multitudes... that's it's Forta, er, Forte. >> >> Why not make CF programming available to millions of Mac systems... >> they'll all require CF servers running on some platform (if not OS X) >> >> To paraphrase King Gillete: Give 'em our razors, and they'll buy our >> blades! >> >> IMO, Dick >> >> >>> >>> Again, just my �0.02 >>> >>> :-p >>> >>> Neil Clark >>> Team Macromedia >>> http://www.macromedia.com/go/team >>> >>> Announcing Macromedia MX!! >>> -------------------------- >>> http://www.macromedia.com/software/trial/. >>> >>> >>> >> > ______________________________________________________________________ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
