Come on now that's a bit much isn't it? Why is something that takes those things that work, and throws what doesn't away considered a bastardization. I mean I have heard plenty of people say we would still be writing assembler for dos without growth, right? (in my case basic on a commodore). Listen not everyone who does CF has, nor wants, all this low level/process knowledge. Hell it's not even a full time job for some of the people I have met . I mean people in HR and well all over different departments may end up using this stuff in a large corporation. FB makes a lot of these advanced principals available to the common man, and it does it damn well. I mean christ I started learning CF right after I got out of the 82nd Airborne. I was a grunt, an infantryman, no idea about oop principals, extreme programming, mvc, struts. I hadn't read any of the books that I have now, and I knew next to nothing, but guess what, I wrote some pretty cool, and powerful web based apps using FB. Quick.
As far as I am concerned you can do no better, as a newbie, than to learn CF and Fusebox at the same time. The lessons you learn about maintainability, portability, and functionality are lessons you NEED, and a whole lot easier to learn than grabbing a copy of code complete and just "figuring it out". Now I didn't go to some college for four years and learn all these things. Maybe if I had I would see it differently, but I doubt it. Tim Heald ACP/CCFD Application Development www.schoollink.net -----Original Message----- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: I like CFMX I get all that without Fusebox. What is unique about Fusebox besides the bastardization of common programming terms? -Matt > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 6:51 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: I like CFMX > > Nested layouts, circuits, MVC implementation in CF. A tried and true > development process. Huge amounts of community support. I don't know > about > you, but it helps me a lot. > > Tim Heald > ACP/CCFD > Application Development > www.schoollink.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:12 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: I like CFMX > > > Good point, when Fusebox does something useful I'll use it too. > > -Matt > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 6:12 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: I like CFMX > > > > > > I'm happy to continue playing with CF, as long as > > > > it can be used to deliver solutions better, faster, > > > > and cheaper than the competition. > > > > > > Now if only we could get you to feel that way about > > > Fusebox. Yeah, yeah, I know. It'll be a cold day in..... > > > > Well, it doesn't help me deliver solutions better, faster and cheaper! > But > > you don't have to convince me - if it works for you, feel free to > continue > > using it without my seal of approval. I've never said that it hurts > > anything > > to use it, just that it doesn't help. > > > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > > http://www.figleaf.com/ > > voice: (202) 797-5496 > > fax: (202) 797-5444 > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
