Dave,

There are two books coming out on Fusebox that should help to alleviate
the lack of available information on exactly what Fusebox is. John
Quarto and I wrote one called "Discovering Fusebox 3" and Jeff
Peters/Nat Papovich wrote one for New Riders. That will help people who
want to find out for themselves what Fusebox is all about.

Hal Helms

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Fusebox (was: I like CFMX)


It's coming.

Tim Heald
ACP/CCFD
Application Development
www.schoollink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Fusebox (was: I like CFMX)


> > Fusebox just tells you how to organize your code
>
> Me thinks it's time you learn more about Fusebox if simple code 
> organization is what you think it's all about. That's an old wives 
> tale that seems to live on...and on...and on...

It may be a slight oversimplification, but it's a useful one. So, you've
got the ability to build "circuits", and relationships between those
circuits. To me, largely, that boils down to how you organize your code
within files. Now, there's nothing wrong with that - it doesn't hurt
anything, in the grand scheme of things.

My problem with it is as it's always been - it doesn't address the big
issues. How do you partition your application logic? What logic are you
moving to the database? (Or, with CF MX, what logic are you going to
move to a middle tier?) What logic are you moving to the client? How are
you minimizing the amount of work done at runtime? Frankly, if your
biggest problem is "how do I make this piece of CF code interact with
that piece", take the rest of the day off.

As for learning more about Fusebox, I've never been able to find a
definitive, single source for documentation. Why is that? I mean,
there's a sample app, there's a bunch of bits and pieces of help docs,
but there's no standard - no RFC or the like - no one single
authoritative document like there is with any similar initiative. It
seems to be a bit vague in that respect. Contrast that with the RFC for
HTML, or any other standard, which while it may be stultifyingly boring,
is both adequate and complete.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444



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