Well I will leave it up to you to decide if I am overly negative or not. However, if you take the time to type my name into Google you may find that I contribute quite a lot to many communities. For example, you can see conferences I speak at by visiting, http://devilm.com/speaking.html or read some of the articles I have written by visiting, http://devilm.com/writing.html.
-Matt > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 8:38 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Fusebox (was: I like CFMX) > > Matt one last thing that has nothing at all to do with this debate. I > don't > know you, I have no idea if it's just because you are drinking, or if you > even are drinking, but you are the most negative person I have seen in a > long time. I have heard nothing but complaint after complaint, no matter > the > topic today. I have no idea who you are, you may be some "luminary" and I > may be throwing my career away, but damnit man why do you even write CF? > If > it's so evil and horrible go write Java servlets, and don't even bother > with > the JSP in the middle. There all nice and close to the machine, and slow > and time consuming and blah blah blah. > > I have been doing stuff with CFMX for months. It is really cool. I think > that it will be the catalyst that really brings CF to the front of the web > app pack, at least on the presentation layer. Now I am sure plenty of > people will still use Java and .Net stuff for the data and application > layers, but the power and ease of use make CFMX unmatched now. CFCs, > native > XML, Web Services are awesome. > > Also how can you just sit back and make negative comments without trying > to > show the right way? You obviously have quite a bit of experience, instead > of just putting ideas down when they show their face, wouldn't you be > better > served by educating and instructing? > > I'm sorry if maybe I come of a bit harsh, but damn man, what do you like? > > I'm one random no name developer, who probably couldn't fill your shoes if > I > had to, but I know this, I write better code because of FB, and because > the > people on those lists, and who write and maintain the core files, took the > time to show me something better. If you know something better SHOW ME. > If > you want FB info, you want to learn it go to > http://www.fusebox.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=learn.resourceList. We have, > as > a community, matured. There are plenty of papers, sample apps, and > demonstrations available now. > > My 2 cents. And I am really going to pull back from this topic now. > > Tim Heald > ACP/CCFD > Application Development > www.schoollink.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:22 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Fusebox (was: I like CFMX) > > > You get the wrong impression. I have seen plenty of Fusebox. I have > debated it on CFGURU as well as various other lists. I have debated it > at conferences and user groups as well. We even had Nat come out to > BACFUG to give a presentation on Fusebox 3. The effect? We all learned > yet again why we aren't using Fusebox. > > -Matt > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ken Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 8:20 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Fusebox (was: I like CFMX) > > > > Uh huh. Normally the FB conversation stops shortly after someone pulls > out > > that old "nothing but organizing your code" claim. In my case, it > usually > > ends when I find myself getting semi-testy with Dave Watts about his > > knowledge (or lack thereof) of FB concepts. I'd prefer he save his > energy > > for the other 1500 constibutions he makes to the list each year. > > > > As for you interest in FB, it's a simple matter of jumping over to the > > Fusebox list and diving in. It's a friendly crowd and quite helpful. > Your > > contributions would be quite interesting, especially on the "CFMX: > Version > > 1 > > all over again" topic. > > > > Ken > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:58 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Fusebox (was: I like CFMX) > > > > > > This is all standard Fusebox crap. People make these statements about > > what Fusebox does using terms they clearly don't understand. Later, > when > > they are called on these terms they back away with, the "you must not > > understand" crap. If Fusebox is the best things since sliced bread, > tell > > us why. Prove it. > > > > -matt > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ken Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 7:44 PM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: RE: Fusebox (was: I like CFMX) > > > > > > > Fusebox just tells you how to organize your code > > > > > > > > > Me thinks it's time you learn more about Fusebox if simple code > > > organization > > > is what you think it's all about. That's an old wives tale that > seems > > to > > > live on...and on...and on... > > > > > > That said, however, I really do understand and respect your > preference > > not > > > to use it. From previous list discussions it's clear you (and > others) > > have > > > your own preferred methods that work superbly within your > environment. > > > > > > Ken > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. 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