Yeah figured.  Well I was fighting the search engine game, and some people
helped me get past that to where I could do some solid coding.  I'm not
saying hold my hand, but Pont me in the right direction.  Where's you white
paper on architecture and development?  Where's your best practices piece?
I'm not trying to be a prick, I'm trying to say two things basically:

1. You don't know much about FB.  It's obvious in how you talk about it.
Before I decided on FB I looked at cfobjects, and smartobjects, and
blackbox.  FB was better as far as I was concerned.  Please ask questions
about it.  Look into it.  But don't slam it just because you "said so".  We
are all adults.  If you have real criticisms then come with.  Is the core
file to slow?  Does it prohibit you from doing something?  Is there a better
way of doing something it does?  I would be happy to hear it.

2. I guess this also ties into part one.  Practice what you preach. You
don't think Hal and Steve and all the rest are dong something that is good
for coders?  Do something better.  Send in some links, something besides
complain.

I have helped write sample apps, put out UDFs, written a small description
paper on the available FB api.  It's what I work with.  I tell you this.  If
someone shows me a better way to write CF I will scream it from the mountain
tops, and I will dedicate my personal time and money, first becoming
proficient in it, and then passing it on to those who can use it. Why?
Because its how we as a community get better.   Why does CF have a bad rap?
Because there's a lot of bad CF out there, and a lot of misinformation.
Well I see a lot of misinformation about FB as well.

Damn I really need to get this in digest mode so I can get some work done :)

Tim Heald
ACP/CCFD
Application Development
www.schoollink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Fusebox (was: I like CFMX)


What do you want? Want me to list everything I expect in an architecture
and application framework to show that Fusebox provides known of them?
You don't really need me for that. Go to Google and do a search on
software architecture and application frameworks. You will find an
amazing amount of infrastructure that Fusebox is no where near
providing. You may even discover the true definitions for some of the
terms Fusebox has bastardized.

-Matt

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 8:56 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Fusebox (was: I like CFMX)
>
> >> So do tell, in detail if you please, what you find
> >> objectionable about it.
>
> > I don't use Fusebox because it does nothing for me.
>
>
> Uh huh. Most enlightening detail there Matt.
>
>

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