i knew that... On 8/18/07, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > :P just kidding though dude :) > > On 8/18/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Scott your too funny... > > > > > > > > On 8/18/07, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > You two chill.. don't make me bring out Andrew Scott to finish this > > > thread off :) hehehe. > > > > > > I take Gary's point, if you are looking to sell the CFCAMP to CFAUSSIE > > > ? then well.. controlled brand kept in tact. If you're looking to entice > > > other communities (PHP, ASP, ROR etc) then the CAMP concept means > > > different > > > things to whats being pitched. That being said, nothing appears to be set > > > in > > > stone yet so a comprimise can surely be had :) > > > > > > Let's not argue, let's look to producing a kickyarse event that puts > > > CF on the map? > > > > > > > > > On 8/18/07, Gary Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve Onnis wrote: > > > > > Gary its just a name for god sake. > > > > > > > > > > What would you prefer? "CFDAYSPA"? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " > > > > > CFDAYSPA > > > > > ============= > > > > > An experience that will restore balance and leave a lasting sense > > > > of calm > > > > > and wellbeing. Stimulate your senses with this rejuvenating > > > > therapy, which > > > > > includes Coldfusion 8, a hint of FLEX and some soothing TRANSFORM > > > > to ease > > > > > your mind and align your mind, body and development to become a > > > > single > > > > > entity. Designed to rebalance tired and stressed online > > > > applications, the > > > > > mind is treated with powerful active and potent presenters, > > > > essential > > > > > information and wonderful ambience to heal, smooth and restore > > > > vitality. > > > > > Caring for all the zone therapy areas - the hands, finders, head > > > > and mind, > > > > > CFDAYSPA not only recharges the body, but give a new lease on web > > > > > development and rekindles passion for the web. > > > > > " > > > > > > > > > > Hows that for you Gary? > > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > Yes it's just a name! However branding is everything. If you are > > > > promoting an event the name is critical. If you brand it as a > > > > "camp" > > > > and don't deliver a camp format aren't you: > > > > > > > > 1) sullying the expectations of the people on the edges of the > > > > coldfusion community that are attending expecting a Camp style > > > > event. > > > > 2) weakening the branding and marketing of the "camp" style events. > > > > 3) showing that coldfusion people just don't understand what is > > > > happening in the web industry. And I know this is wrong, but you > > > > don't > > > > want to do it. > > > > > > > > Take another view point if you called it CF roadshow of CF > > > > conference > > > > and didn't deliver it those formats you would question why wouldn't > > > > you. If you brought a software application that was labeled as > > > > "Great > > > > Project Management software" and it was just a single task list you > > > > would an annoyed. Same concept. > > > > > > > > If you want to really attract people beyond the usual crowd then you > > > > really have to promote the event beyond the usual Coldfusion > > > > community. > > > > You have to involve the web industry at large, this way you you > > > > will > > > > get a range of topics with a solid core of CF related topics. > > > > > > > > Don't want a "Camp" style event, just hand it over to adobe, and sit > > > > back. > > > > > > > > I am hoping the coldfusion community can standup and show the rest > > > > of > > > > Web Industry that it is alive and well beyond the usual User Group > > > > meetings. > > > > > > > > Gary Barber > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > On Behalf > > > > > Of Gary Barber > > > > > Sent: Saturday, 18 August 2007 12:44 PM > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP Australia Is GO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark Mandel wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Gary - what state are you in? > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Have people considered if its a "camp" style event of doing it on > > > > a weekend, > > > > > as you normally do. This is so you get maximum attendance, get to > > > > use > > > > > educational facilities in some cases etc. During the working week > > > > may work > > > > > for a roadshow. not a "camp" > > > > > > > > > > I'm in Perth. > > > > > > > > > > Gary Barber > > > > > > > > > >> On 8/18/07, Barry Beattie < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>> You're being negative Barry :) stop it :) > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> nah, I'm not, you're reading it wrong. I'm being a bit > > > > realistic, > > > > >>> sure and a bit disappointed the Queensland representation is > > > > thin so > > > > >>> far > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> The question overall though for everyone whom wants to attend > > > > is > > > > >>>> simple: > > > > >>>> "What do you want to get out of it?" > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> 100% agreement there. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> It's the same for any community involvement, including Adobe > > > > user > > > > >>> groups, the kids school's P&C, your local soccer club committee, > > > > etc. > > > > >>> For example the people putting on user groups are really just > > > > >>> facilitators to allow a community to have a focus. Smooth the > > > > wheels > > > > >>> to keep the doors open and people coming back - people are very > > > > >>> welcomed to contribute and even drive the agenda. No one owns > > > > the > > > > >>> community, the trick is to "have a go". Life be in it, rah rah. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> Anywho, I'd opt for a more Community interactive experience > > > > instead > > > > >>>> of people talking at you vs with you :) > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> who cares what it's called? the wiki is there for people to put > > > > their > > > > >>> hand up. Heck, if my presso gets bumped because a bunch of > > > > people > > > > >>> start overflowing up the agenda and I'm an old stallwart, I'm > > > > cool > > > > >>> with that. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> the trick, as I said, is to have a go. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > Scott Barnes > > > http://www.mossyblog.com > > > > > > www.aegeon.com.au > > > Phone: +613 8676 4223 > > > Mobile: 0404 998 273 > > > > > > > > > > > >
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