Okay I'm not privy to where Geoff and Mark are doing these presentations. Is it to Coldfusion people. If so it's a waste of time.
I've not hear of them and I do keep my ear to the ground so to speak in relation to Coldfusion news outside of the Cf community. Besides on or two vocal advocates I have heard nothing! Do nothing and it won't effect me. But it will effect you guys. Sorry to be all serious here. -- Gary Barber Freelance User Interaction Designer/ Information Architect Web: radharc.com.au blog: manwithnoblog.com CyberAngel wrote: > Hmmmm... > > I think that Geoff, Mark and a few others are always doing presentations on > Coldfusion related products. > > As for recommending I would think it will depend on the situation and the > project. > > As for Killer sites, yeah well I agree... > > But I will say what Scott Barnes said, even though it is easier said than > done. But he is right. > > Regards > Andrew Scott > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Gary Barber > Sent: Wednesday, 9 April 2008 7:25 PM > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: recruters say "CF on the way out"? ... FFS! not FUD > from them too? > > > <summary of blog post> > > Would I recommend Coldfusion to someone new in the industry, well > frankly no. Realistically it has no future (puts on flame proof suit). > So what can you do about it. > > DON"T be complacent. > > Consider this besides WebDU and your CFUG. How many presentations have > people done on Cold fusion. How many kill sites where highlighted as > Coldfusion sites. > > I've not heard of any, so if I'm wrong tell me. But people you need to > get outside of the user groups back into the rest of the web industry. > If you really love this product and it's more than a day job get out > there promote it to others. The rest of the web community hears about > RoR, PHP and .Net all the time.. Coldfusion... - "oh thats that dead > language". > > It's a PR problem. > > Okay you say "but I have all the work I need, why should I bother at > all". Well you can sit around with all your work, but in a few years > the work level will start to drop and at that stage it will be terminal, > Coldfusion will be dead. The reason you have lots of work, simple > others have left, and you are picking up their slack. > > Adobe are not going to help you. Australia is a small market, if the > Coldfusion numbers dropped in Australia but remained the same in the > US. I don't think Adobe HQ would really be that concerned. Lets be > very realistic here. Adobe doesn't make a lot of money out of Coldfusion > in Australia, it makes more out of CS3 etc. > > Adobe guys, lets be real here, you don't have the budget. So if Adobe > isn't going to help, what can you do. > > Encourage the installation of the CF opensource alternatives. Okay they > are not 100% cf8, but it is a good stable platform for cfml development > that is very low in cost. Stop being purists. CF has to Open source in > Australia to help it survive. > > Also is you get industry to push the CF opensource alternatives, and > educational institutions will follow suit and train graduates in CF. > Adobe (US) may even wake up at some point. > > So what can you do now. We email, phone, IM a web professional group > that is not your CFUG and go organise to do a presentation of your > latest CF project. > > I would love to see this happen, but a little part of me doesn't think > you guys can do it. Prove me wrong. > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
