I use a site still called

www.experts-exchange.com

It is a big forum with different areas you can ask questions and help others
and you earn points.

Earn enough points you get a ranking and they send you a T-Shirt.

Now I'm top 10 all time in all CF categories, that is a result of how long I
have been on it and I occasionally answer questions, but I'm not hard core.

What is interesting, is that the people who are hard core in the CF areas
people with 500k or 1m points have vanished over the past couple of years.
Now they haven't stopped using the site, they have just gone into different
areas, you can click them to see where they are posting / answering
questions now.

So I don't work for Microsoft, and this is just me relaying the stats of
that site, but I can tell you that a lot of them have gone to .NET

For example (not sure if you can see this without a login)
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Software/Server_Software/Web_Servers/ColdFus
ion/

The ColdFusion area, all time ranking mrichmon (1,346,158 points)

Is now mainly posting in C# and ASP.NET areas. This trend is repeated for a
lot of ex major ColdFusion people on this site. So there is defiantly merit
in what Scott has said, I have seen it here and other places.

With that said, while I think there is a trend of CF people moving to .NET.
It's not something I would consider unless I thought that Adobe were going
to drop ColdFusion, as .NET compared to ColdFusion is just hard work. Even
Scott might agree with that.

ColdFusion is a good product with a bad rep and historically bad marketing.

Regards
Dale Fraser

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Barry Beattie
Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 11:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: recruters say "CF on the way out"? ... FFS! not FUD
from them too?


it's probably worth remembering that Barnes has cut CF code a lot
longer than he's been wearing an MS-logo'd jacket.


so when he says

"...I think the skill shortage in Australia is what's driving this
perception, my advice is to get back out there, hit the pavements and
start stimulating the CF Community again."

there's a fair bit of thought behind it.

you can't beat "vibe" for creating groundswells and getting a scene
happening. Whether it's "Kevin07" (or "It's Time" back in 1972) or the
Pepsi taste challenge or the promo for the Blair Witch Project, if you
haven't a vibe you just don't exist these days.

that thread I threw up this afternoon about "cfqueryparam 101"? - it
was an Ad (a very subtle one) advertising one of the many things that
the local user group can do to help people become better at their
craft, keep their skills up, have longeviy in the industry, etc.

Advertising the local CFUG for tonight (not expecting one extra person
to show, but at least it gets the name out there). Also pointing out
that there's CFUG's all around the region. From Andrew Mercer in Perth
to David Harris in NZ and people like Steve Onnis, Mark Mandel, Chris
Velevitch, Kai Koenig, Darren Tracey - Dale, you're in there helping
too.

you can stumble across all sorts of interesting things at CFUG's -
tonight for example it was about CF, LCDS and data management,
presented by a guy in the U.S who was up at 5:00am to present.
http://quetwo.wordpress.com/2008/04/07/speaking-at-the-queensland-cfug-tomor
row/

not your cup of tea? well, what is? and what are you going to do about it?

People who don't contribute to the CF community shouldn't be too quick
to bitch and moan about the lack of CF profile.

two ways to help:

 - actively drive the agenda of your local CFUG: don't just be a
passenger, but help set the direction to what you think would make it
better - and then help make it happen.

- contribute to open-source apps/code. Ray Camden's blogCFC is almost
ubiquitous but it's still not the "foot in the door" that PHPNuke
created for PHP (or many of the other PHP-based apps). FarCry's there
waiting to be used, etc.








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