I had similar issues when CF8 was first released on Host My Site

http://www.chapter31.com/2007/08/22/hostmysite-not-quite-as-stable-as-id-like/

I've since moved on from them so not sure if things have improved or
not. People do mention the issues (on CF8) with the Java 6 class
loader which is the reason why a lot of CF8-ers roll back to using JVM
1.5, the good news is that Sun (I believe) have fixed this issue in
the latest release.

>Restarting the CF service ONCE a day is too many times.

Agreed, HMS admitted that they were restarting JRun around 5 times a
day. Crazy stuff.

However I think moving to a VPS would make the difference as long
there was nothing particularly wrong with your code to begin with and
you knew what you were doing in terms of setting up a server.

It makes me wonder how much RAM a lot of these shared hosting
companies offer. 512MB (for a server/virtual) may be ok for a PHP
server etc but if you have a Java Application server like JRun
installed on windows it's really not going to handle many sites.
That's the nature of the beast.

On Aug 26, 7:32 pm, Rony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Good point Steve.
>
> I might try that and see what happens.
>
> I am sure that they are many other sites / applications that are
> causing the issue. I do not have any issues with my application on my
> dev machine and i have performance tested this with no evident issues.
> I am positive it is NOT my application.
>
> I am sure it is a class loader shared hosting issue.
>
> But I have no patience to keep worrying about the shared hosting
> account I have running.
>
> On Aug 26, 7:24 pm, "Steve Onnis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Rony
>
> > Moving to a VPS is not going to solve your problems.  If it’s a problem in a
> > shared host and you think its your application that’s the issue then it just
> > means you will be moving the problem from a shared host to your own hosted
> > environment.
>
> > I wouldn’t be saying that your script is causing the issue (depending on
> > what the script does of course).  If all it does it ping the site, then it
> > would be just like someone visiting the website anyway so I wouldn’t be too
> > worried about that.
>
> > Restarting the CF service ONCE a day is too many times.  Are they implying
> > that it is your application that is causing the issues?
>
> > What operating system and CF Server version are they running on?  I know I
> > am having issues with memory not being released on Windows 2003 64Bit and
> > CF8.01 64Bit Ent so that could be your issue there.
>
> > I would find out what they are running and see if you can replicate your
> > development environment to match and run it locally to test it.  Sometimes I
> > set up a frameset with like 10 frames in it and just have the frames
> > reloading to see how the memory goes with constantly loading the application
> > up.
>
> > Steve
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>
> > Of Rony
> > Sent: Tuesday, 26 August 2008 7:17 PM
> > To: cfaussie
> > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Frameworks on shared hosting
>
> > I do really like using Reactor, but I might have a look at Transfer.
> > But Reactor seems to work for others in a shared environment.
>
> > I do have a script that pings the server every 15 minutes but the host
> > claims that they are having to restart the JRun service 3-5 times a
> > day....now to me that is way to many times and that is the cause of the
> > problem.
>
> > I am thinking of *maybe* moving to a VPS and getting all my sites on that
> > server. That should avoid any current and further issues with the sites i
> > build.
>
> > On Aug 26, 7:00 pm, Toby Tremayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I've run a number of sites small and large on model glue with
> > > coldspring and transfer on shared hosting and haven't had any
> > > problems.  i would highly recommend switching to transfer - it has a
> > > bunch of features lacking in reactor, is much much faster and the
> > > caching mechanisms are top notch.  If you switch you'll probably find
> > > that alone seriously increases your performance.
>
> > > Toby
> > > On 25/08/2008, at 8:28 PM, Rony wrote:
>
> > > > Hi Guys,
>
> > > > I have a few sites that I have built with CF using Reactor /
> > > > Coldspring / Model Glue.
>
> > > > I have been experiencing slow load times when the application
> > > > reloads / initializes , probably due to the frameworks storing the
> > > > objects in the application scope and so forth.
>
> > > > I understand that there is a JRun 6 class loader bug that seems to
> > > > affect the load time of these applications especially on shared
> > > > hosting. Well at least that is what i have been reading.
>
> > > > I was wondering if others also use any framework(s) and have
> > > > experienced any issues?
>
> > > > This is very frustrating as it is a turn off for me to use
> > > > frameworks let alone Coldfusion for my smaller sites - But i really want
> > to!
>
> > > > I know other use frameworks on shared hosting so it not like these
> > > > frameworks on shared hosting is a recipe for disaster.
>
> > > > VPS plans / dedicated hosting is not worth it as the sites are not
> > > > that big to utilise these plans.
>
> > > -----------------------------------
>
> > > Life is poetry, write it in your own words
>
> > > -----------------------------------
>
> > > Toby Tremayne
> > > CEO
> > > Code Poet and Zen Master of the Heavy Sleep Magic Industries
> > > 0416 048 090
> > > ICQ: 13107913
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>
>
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