I guess another thing I find annoying with the shared hosting accounts is that they may flush cache , which means that if my site has not visitors for about 2 hours, lets say, then the application has to reload which literally takes 1-2 minutes to do. How can you expect users to wait that long ?
I do appreciate having full control of my server and CF instance which is why a VPS / dedicate server might be a much better and more stable option. I know for sure my code base is fine. On Aug 26, 7:47 pm, michael sharman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had similar issues when CF8 was first released on Host My Site > > http://www.chapter31.com/2007/08/22/hostmysite-not-quite-as-stable-as... > > I've since moved on from them so not sure if things have improved or > not. People do mention the issues (on CF8) with the Java 6 class > loader which is the reason why a lot of CF8-ers roll back to using JVM > 1.5, the good news is that Sun (I believe) have fixed this issue in > the latest release. > > >Restarting the CF service ONCE a day is too many times. > > Agreed, HMS admitted that they were restarting JRun around 5 times a > day. Crazy stuff. > > However I think moving to a VPS would make the difference as long > there was nothing particularly wrong with your code to begin with and > you knew what you were doing in terms of setting up a server. > > It makes me wonder how much RAM a lot of these shared hosting > companies offer. 512MB (for a server/virtual) may be ok for a PHP > server etc but if you have a Java Application server like JRun > installed on windows it's really not going to handle many sites. > That's the nature of the beast. > > On Aug 26, 7:32 pm, Rony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Good point Steve. > > > I might try that and see what happens. > > > I am sure that they are many other sites / applications that are > > causing the issue. I do not have any issues with my application on my > > dev machine and i have performance tested this with no evident issues. > > I am positive it is NOT my application. > > > I am sure it is a class loader shared hosting issue. > > > But I have no patience to keep worrying about the shared hosting > > account I have running. > > > On Aug 26, 7:24 pm, "Steve Onnis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Rony > > > > Moving to a VPS is not going to solve your problems. If it’s a problem > > > in a > > > shared host and you think its your application that’s the issue then it > > > just > > > means you will be moving the problem from a shared host to your own hosted > > > environment. > > > > I wouldn’t be saying that your script is causing the issue (depending on > > > what the script does of course). If all it does it ping the site, then it > > > would be just like someone visiting the website anyway so I wouldn’t be > > > too > > > worried about that. > > > > Restarting the CF service ONCE a day is too many times. Are they implying > > > that it is your application that is causing the issues? > > > > What operating system and CF Server version are they running on? I know I > > > am having issues with memory not being released on Windows 2003 64Bit and > > > CF8.01 64Bit Ent so that could be your issue there. > > > > I would find out what they are running and see if you can replicate your > > > development environment to match and run it locally to test it. > > > Sometimes I > > > set up a frameset with like 10 frames in it and just have the frames > > > reloading to see how the memory goes with constantly loading the > > > application > > > up. > > > > Steve > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > > > > Of Rony > > > Sent: Tuesday, 26 August 2008 7:17 PM > > > To: cfaussie > > > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Frameworks on shared hosting > > > > I do really like using Reactor, but I might have a look at Transfer. > > > But Reactor seems to work for others in a shared environment. > > > > I do have a script that pings the server every 15 minutes but the host > > > claims that they are having to restart the JRun service 3-5 times a > > > day....now to me that is way to many times and that is the cause of the > > > problem. > > > > I am thinking of *maybe* moving to a VPS and getting all my sites on that > > > server. That should avoid any current and further issues with the sites i > > > build. > > > > On Aug 26, 7:00 pm, Toby Tremayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I've run a number of sites small and large on model glue with > > > > coldspring and transfer on shared hosting and haven't had any > > > > problems. i would highly recommend switching to transfer - it has a > > > > bunch of features lacking in reactor, is much much faster and the > > > > caching mechanisms are top notch. If you switch you'll probably find > > > > that alone seriously increases your performance. > > > > > Toby > > > > On 25/08/2008, at 8:28 PM, Rony wrote: > > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > > I have a few sites that I have built with CF using Reactor / > > > > > Coldspring / Model Glue. > > > > > > I have been experiencing slow load times when the application > > > > > reloads / initializes , probably due to the frameworks storing the > > > > > objects in the application scope and so forth. > > > > > > I understand that there is a JRun 6 class loader bug that seems to > > > > > affect the load time of these applications especially on shared > > > > > hosting. Well at least that is what i have been reading. > > > > > > I was wondering if others also use any framework(s) and have > > > > > experienced any issues? > > > > > > This is very frustrating as it is a turn off for me to use > > > > > frameworks let alone Coldfusion for my smaller sites - But i really > > > > > want > > > to! > > > > > > I know other use frameworks on shared hosting so it not like these > > > > > frameworks on shared hosting is a recipe for disaster. > > > > > > VPS plans / dedicated hosting is not worth it as the sites are not > > > > > that big to utilise these plans. > > > > > ----------------------------------- > > > > > Life is poetry, write it in your own words > > > > > ----------------------------------- > > > > > Toby Tremayne > > > > CEO > > > > Code Poet and Zen Master of the Heavy Sleep Magic Industries > > > > 0416 048 090 > > > > ICQ: 13107913 > > > > Skype: lyricist1 > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. 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