Re: [cfaussie] JB-HI Moving to dotnet

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I suspect (hope?) they chose a developer based on a lot of factors, one of the least important being the technology used. I like to think they would factor in the track record of the company, the skill of the graphic designer, the information design and so on. Lots of things. I think arguing over the technology used is like arguing that Ford is better than Holden. I try to explain this to clients sometimes if they ask me why I use ColdFusion, I usually tell them my handy car analogy, then try to explain that the skill of the driver makes a lot of difference, and a bad driver in a good car is still a bad driver. To be fair they often look at me like I am a rambling madman. At the end of the day if they need a site that is a basic CMS you can do that in anything, e-commerce can be done in anything - there's no real point of difference between all these things other than the perceived skills of the person "driving" it all. On 25/05/2010 7:31 AM, Dale Fraser wrote: Yeah I agree Kai, Many moons ago Adobe and a company called Firmware here used to promote it a lot, I used to get a demo pack hit my desk quarterly followed by a sales call. One day I tried it, went along to a sales pitch and demo and took along the CEO, which included Spectra at that time and decided we liked what we saw. So I can appreciate the allure of a good sales pitch, the fact that Adobe don't do this type of thing in ANZ and haven't done for a while, ends up with people moving and few new customers signing up. With that said, whenever I advertise a position I get a good range of applicants, so I don't subscribe to the theory that people have moved because they cant find people. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com -----Original Message----- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kai Koenig Sent: Monday, 24 May 2010 10:26 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] JB-HI Moving to dotnet 1. Ahh, that might have played a role. Typical problem in AU and NZ, seen it before (in NZ) New guy in power who regularly meets with his CEO and CIO networks for lunch/dinner/golf and gets asked why they use that weird ColdFusion product when .NET is so much better. Lobbying from MSFT is extremely good down here and strategic lobbying from Adobe for ColdFusion unfortunately doesn't happen in AU/NZ. 2. It _might_ be that is has nothing to do with each other. Maybe they want to strategically move towards MSFT infrastructure and run a huge $harepoint or whatever infrastructure where CF doesn't make that much sense anymore. Cheers Kai Hi Dale, They have changed CEO in February, http://bit.ly/jbhificeo Best regards, Dmitry. --- Yakhnov Studio, www.yakhnov.info -----Original Message----- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:13 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [cfaussie] JB-HI Moving to dotnet Interesting, Anyone know who the IT manager is, I'd love to email him about the factors that led to the decision. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com -----Original Message----- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dawesi Sent: Monday, 24 May 2010 4:57 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] JB-HI Moving to dotnet Looks like JB-HI is moving to .net http://www.seek.com.au/job/software-developer/melbourne-east/17358904/72/1/ Another misinformed IT manager. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. 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