How you ask Mark?

Well it is a good question to ask, but Firmware was out in peoples faces
giving business/companies packs. They held events for businesses to come
along and see the product in action. You could invite friends along in the
industry, they put on a small supper and gave away door prizes and all you
had to do was to turn up and watch the demonstration/presentation on
ColdFusion.

All Adobe needs to do is have someone like Ben Forta come along into the
government sector and he can do his magic, it seems that they are doing all
this magic pushing of the product into companies and business in there own
backyard but not the rest of the world.

I guess if you ignore something long enough then it is bound to go the way
of the dodo.




On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Mark Mandel <mark.man...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Andrew Scott <andr...@andyscott.id.au>wrote:
>
>> but until Adobe come in and push like firmware used to do and promote the
>> product it will not be a serious contender here in Australia.
>>
>
> Again, I'll ask the question - HOW?
>
> I honestly have no idea how firmware used to push it, I started CF just
> around the end of firmware, so I missed out on it.
>
> To be completely frank, I think IMHO Adobe is listening (they may be slow
> to move, but they are listening) to what is happening in ANZ, but we're not
> really giving them a clear message on what exactly we want done other than
> 'this sucks'.
>
> We're being a bit of the quintessential client that is saying 'I don't like
> it, but keep changing it and I'll tell you when I do', which we all know and
> love.
>
> I mean, we all complained about how hard/painful/etc it was the actually
> just buy ColdFusion in ANZ, now there are dedicated resellers in the region
> to help solve that problem.  Case in point, we presented a real problem, and
> a solution was provided.
>
> So what could Adobe be doing better?  If this question can be answered
> well, I can put my ACP hat on with something I can actually take to Adobe,
> and maybe a solution can be reached... or at least, a discussion can be
> started.
>
>
> Mark
>
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