On the train ride in this morning i noticed one thing to sum up general people stupidity.

I looked out my window and noticed a 2 car pile-up just up from an off-ramp to the main highway.

Now heres a very simple example of how we humans just don't think.

Concept:
If you see an on-ramp ahead, that cars utilise to GET on the highway, it makes perfect sense that in order to allow these new objects to merge with the mainstream flow, one would move into another lane (or multiple lanes if you will).


YET..

There is always a cluster of clowns who just don't get it and end up plowing into the car thats trying to merge. (Truck nearly did this to me yesterday aswell).

Simple procedure, totally [EMAIL PROTECTED])ked up by a user.

Point:
You can only hand hold so much before you just need to start doing random beatings.




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CFAussie wrote:
Further to this, and also from a commercial perspective..

We've developed an app called Sitewizard (www.sitewizard.com.au) that is
aimed at novice users who want to get a hosted Web site in minutes using
a pre-defined template and packaged features.. Now, we set out to make
it very easy to use -- big icons, big text, lots of "help" options, etc
etc..


A lot of people have commented about how easy it is to use. But there
are also those who still don't get it, and still need to have their hand
held. My point is that it is impossible to build an interface for a CMS,
even a very simple CMS, that *everyone* will get. I don't even know if
focus testing for two months or getting Donald Norman in as a consultant
would help.

Darryl

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Posted At: Tuesday, 16 March 2004 4:03 PM
Posted To: CFAussie
Conversation: [cfaussie] Re: [OT] CMS Shado vs FarCry -> User
friendliness
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: [OT] CMS Shado vs FarCry -> User friendliness


Dude,


I've busted my ass a couple of years ago writing a CMS for a few govt
depts for a company called Urban Media. We spent more time making the UI
then we did the architecture behind it, it was pretty sexy in regards to
feedback and what not (i dazzled the monkeys with progress bars, funky
dhtml/flash combinations etc - those who saw it can confirm/deny its
ease of use aswell).

Despite it being very simple to use it wasn't as mature (enterprise
level) as Shado or FarCry, but it allowed them to run sites via a simple
approach (pretty much contribute kinda simple with dynamics) (ie no DMS
or high-tech backup stuff etc).

Having said that, it still wasn't enough. The UI was still not clear
enough for monkeys who can't even install Office let alone run a
website? and in truth applications like DreamWeaver (which is very
simple for most) is a failure in that regard as well (just look at all
the self-help books around).

Point is, you can only automate a solution so far before the gloves come
off and you have to start digging with your bare hands. This is where
the developer comes into play.

One can argue "think outside the box" all they like, but if you manage
to formulate a balance between Server-Side CMS and Client-Side CMS
solutions, then you are years ahead of solutions such as
Shado/FarCry/Common Spot etc

CMS by nature are solutions put in place to formulate the web
development process, to allow the abstract thinking to take care of
itself and make it a straight forward solution (backups, auto-archiving,
auto-search engine seeding, auto-search-indexing etc).

The biggest problem and annoyance is a lot of software keyturn solution
makers, have spun the "CMS for Dummies" tune way too much, which in
return, raises everyones expectations on how a CMS should work. If it
was that simple and dummies could run an enterprise level site out of
the box, then we would all be out of a job. This isn't the case, so
expecting an out of the box solution thats intuitive in the eyes of UI
design is well, dreaming a little.

I know why you need a CMS solution, and we have reasons on why we chose
SHADO vs FarCry, so feel free to ask those if you need to, but you won't
get an Intranet solution straight out of a box. Its just not that easy
i'm afraid.



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